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Dear Nigel,

Be warned that when the going gets tough, strange things
are bound to happen. Good Luck with the elections.

Yours Sincerely,

Robert Stockmann
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Subject: The EU elections


Hi,

The much hailed Democratic society is something which many if not all
cherish, desire and long to. But one must be very aware of phony
democratic societies. To identity problems one should very closely
investigate matters and details of organised democratic elections.
There are several possibilities and outcomes pictured. The one which is
best, if possible, is one where all peoples are allowed to vote. Noted
and proven complications arise, and have arisen in the past, when the
Jewish and Zionist lobby take foothold and grab control in the House of
Representatives and the Senate. Representatives elect are to obey their
never openly disclosed rules , regulations and guidelines, or else your
campaign funding for re-election will be terminated. It does not take
much imagination that such lobby groups demand that people who do not
approve of their policies, even when not being aware of it themselves,
will never make it on the ballot. One observes this by placing men and
women of renown at unelectable positions. This seems to happen with all
political parties across the board, from left to right, conservative to
liberal. A few exceptions seem to exist, but such parties will never be
granted acceptance in the media and TV. Ron Paul is a good example.
In the Netherlands of most recent it has been the party of Geert
Wilders, the PVV, The Party for Freedom, which has been ostracized,
ridiculized and criminalized in the most evil fashion. This all after
Wilders had criticized the faith of Islam, foremost when actions are
taken to the detriment of women and christians. Such behavior does not
fit inside a Western culture and society.
Another never directly observed policy, like who can make it on the
ballot, is determining who will be eligible to vote or register to
vote, which is likewise obscured. Who will be allowed to vote ? Jews,
Gentiles, Slaves?  In recent times all who are in the possession of a
valid passport or drivers license are eligible to vote. Thats pretty
democratic for the uninformed layman and observer. And it is. What
occurs however is that through other means people are removed from the
possibility to vote, before the event, and these days also observed,
after the election event. In the case of the PVV of Geert Wilders it
turns out that not a single Jew or Zionist would ever vote for him,
because his policies are in direct confrontation with the World Zionist
Agenda of allowing ethnic groups from regions of domestic warfare and
economic trouble to immigrate into Western Europe and Northern America.
As it turns out that all peoples who vote for such political party's,
which of recent have also become EU- and Euro-skeptic as well, are the
Gentiles, the hidden Jewish controllers of congress will never have any
problems with ordering selected delegates to insert casted ballots
together with registered voting cards for the PVV into the
paper-shredder. Recruiting selected delegates for such a task, is not
likely to be a problem, when the main stream media and press turn out
to have become involved in a almost demonic campaign to ridicule,
marginalize and demonize the involved party - PVV - to absurd levels.
I fear that is exactly what has happened last Thursday May 22, 2014,
when the PVV only ended in third place, because, apparently, the voter
turnout was at a dramatic low.

Best Regards,

Robert
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Contents:

911 was a Mossad Operation
Barbara Olson was on Flight 77, BBC reports!
Rafi Eitan: Ready shelters for Iran attack
FOX News : Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.?
Zionist Circles Benefit From WTC Collapse
The 'Bollyn' Website
The bollyn.com domainname scam
THE RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY
The Bijlmer disaster
Was the Mossad involved in the JFK Assassination 1963 ?
The New Hampshire Vote Fraud
The USS Liberty attack : OPERATION CYANIDE
WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
9-11 WTC: CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL
REBUTTAL ARGUMENT: YES, 270 TONS AND MORE DID FLY SIDEWAYS
Barry Jennings interviewed at MIKE'S PAPAYA
Downloads


By way of deception, thou shalt do war, Motto of the Mossad









911 was a Mossad Operation


Everone who really wanted to know what happened, has heard about the Five Dancing Israelis (pdf copy of this page) who were filming the 911 airliner attacks on the WTC from the roof of a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration. They were part of the Weehawken based company "Urban Moving" in New Jersey.

The Record, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2001 32 PAGES OF COVERAGE, www.northjersey.com

The Fed's, The News Media and lately most important all these so-called 911 for truth seekers out there seem to have all forgotten about this incident. Here's what was uncovered 5 years later.

Update: from the Wayne Madsen Report of Sept 11, 2006 we now learn that the FBI permitted the owner of Urban Moving Systems, Dominick Suter, known to be a Mossad agent, to flee the country after his five employees were arrested for suspicion of involvement with the 911 attack. s/attack/massacre/

Update: from a report by Laurent Guyenot July 16, 2013, "Was 9/11 an Inside Job, or a Mossad Job?", we learn that Urban Moving Systems was not only a front company of Mossad in the USA, they were actively operating from the East to the West coast constituting the bodywork of the largest Israeli espionage operation ever on American soil, as was reported by Carl Cameron for FOX News on 12/12/01.

Homepage of Urban Moving Systems on Februari 3, 2001, as captured The Internet Archive, a 501(c)(3) non-profit.
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:34:51 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann stock@stokkie.net
To: cloak.dagger@gmail.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, tips@infowars.com,
     prisonplanetweb@hotmail.com, chamish@netvision.net.il,
     eric@vaticanassassins.org, tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net,
     stewwebb@sierranv.net, webmaster@rense.com, prophecy@texemarrs.com,
     iamthewitness@hotmail.com
Subject: Best interview on 911 since 2001

Hi,

I think i just heard the best interview about 911 since 2001.

Christopher Bollyn, an investigative journalist working for the 
American Free Press, has investigated the weird security practices of 
airbases and airports in the North East area, after he found out that 
NORAD was told to stay down [1].

Bollyn reports about how the Port Authority of former Stuart Airforce 
Base (only 60 miles north of the WTC Buildings) became a privatily run 
and owned operation in the year 2000. Stuart Airforce Base is today 
known as Stuart International Airport and is currently the only 
privately owned Airport inside the United States. The current owner
is a british company, which has its base in Houston, Texas.

The privatization of the Port Authority of Stuart Airforce Base and the 
WTC buildings was overseen and directed by Ronald Lauder, a son of 
Estee Lauder, the cosmetics company based in New York. He was the 
director of the government privatization board and pushed this agenda. 
Lewis M. Eisenberg was in charge of the Port Authority of New York and New 
Yersey at that time. He also oversaw the lease negotiations, and 
managed to have Larry Silverstein get his lease deal on the WTC 
buildings 1., 2. and 7. on July 26, 2001.

Near Stuart Airbase is Boston Logan Airport which reportedly
had a total lack of security during the twin tower attacks.
The Security of Boston Logan Airport was run by Huntleigh USA Corp., a 
whole subsidiary of ICTS (International Consultants on Targeted Security)
based in Amsterdam ( http://www.ictseurope.com/ ), ICTS however turns
out to be a 100% Mossad operation, as was claimed by Bollyn.

Listen to the rest of this hot interview trunkloaded with C4 explosives:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith-Bollyn-Zionism-11May2006.mp3

http://crashrecovery.org/911/DarylBradfordSmith-Bollyn-Zionism-11May2006.mp3

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn.html

http://crashrecovery.org/911/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn.html

Cheers,

Robert
[1] "FLIGHT 93 SHOT DOWN" By Christopher Bollyn
    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html
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Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

Barbara Olson was on Flight 77, BBC reports!


On December 14, 2004, a organization called Judicial Watch demanded that the US Justice Department would release the 9/11 Pentagon video of "Flight 77" crash according the Freedom of Information Act. Their wish was the US justice departments command, but only got their wished fullfilled, after waiting for over 1.5 years, and receiving just a couple of "Loose Change" video surveillance tape frames. The BBC reported this where the commentary of the BBC video was much more reveilling. Barbara Olson was reportedly inside the Boeing of "Flight 77" which crashed into the Pentagon building. Here's were the total doubt for me started, as cloak and dagger in 2004 had reported that Barbara Olson was alive:

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:08:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann stock@stokkie.net
To: cloak.dagger@gmail.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, tips@infowars.com,
     prisonplanetweb@hotmail.com, chamish@netvision.net.il,
     eric@vaticanassassins.org, tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net,
     stewwebb@sierranv.net, webmaster@rense.com, prophecy@texemarrs.com,
     iamthewitness@hotmail.com, waynemadsendc@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Barbara Olson was on Flight 77, BBC reports!

On Wed, 17 May 2006, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

Hi,

The audio also reports about Stonebridge International, LLC, a 
Mega-Mossad front operation, where Samuel R. Berger, Chairman of 
Stonebridge International, and former National Security Advisor to 
President Clinton reportedly was the mastermind behind the 
Pollard/Vince Foster operation to sneak out remote US missile control 
codes to Israel.

http://www.usiraqprocon.org/BiosInd/samuelberger.html

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=stonebridge&near=Washington,+DC
&radius=0.0&latlng=38895000,-77036667,12891802080164828164&sa=X&oi=local&ct=resul
t&cd=1

Stonebridge International LLC as seen on Google Maps

Stonebridge International
(202) 637-8600
555 13th St NW # 300W
Washington, DC 20004
0.4 mi E - Directions

Someone in the D.C. Area should file a court order to seize the 
complete operation of this company. The thing which is reported as 
"Flight 77" to hit the Pentagon, surely looks like some missile to me. 

Regards,

Robert M. Stockmann
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:32:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann stock@stokkie.net
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     prisonplanetweb@hotmail.com, chamish@netvision.net.il,
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Subject: Barbara Olson was on Flight 77, BBC reports!

Hi,

Download the following BBC video :

rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/news/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da680042b40/bb/09012da
680042d53_16x9_bb.rm
http://crashrecovery.org/911/09012da680042d53_16x9_bb.rm (direct download)

(e.g. inside linux using the following command :

$ mplayer -dumpfile 09012da680042d53_16x9_bb.rm -dumpstream
rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/news/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da680042b40/bb/09012da
680042d53_16x9_bb.rm
)

Play it with your favorate real video player and be amazed when the BBC 
lady tells that Barbara Olson was on that Flight 77 plane inside the 
video. But inside the BBC video we only see a very tiny 747. I bet its 
a scale model of 747 with tiny nitro-octane engine :)

Now, and here comes the kicker, on OCT.2, 2004 , Cloak and Dagger 
reported that Baraba Olson is alive in a foreign country after face 
surgery by a german doctor :

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/_archives/_Tom Briefings/BARBARA
 OLSON/10_02_arch_1.mp3
10_02_arch_1.mp3 original non-lineair VBR mp3
10_02_arch_1-2.mp3 linear formatted mp3

goto 4:10min into the audio, and you will also hear that a Mega Mossad
operation was carried out, in which Vince Foster jr. handed over launch
codes of US Missiles to the Israeli Mossad.

Cheers,

Robert
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Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

Inside the audio of cloak and dagger is also reported that Vince Foster, deputy White House counsel during the 1st Clinton Administration was inside the intelligence community known as "The Rabbi". Vince Foster died in rather strange circumstances, what we today may call a schoolbook example of a Governmental Coverup.
Jonathan Pollard, a Navy Intelligence employee, was caught red-handed in 1985 while passing U.S. nuclear secrets and other key information like a 10-volume manual detailing America's global electronic surveillance network to Israel. As of today Pollard is still in jail, and the paper trail of his case is very strange. "The government's conduct in this case is highly disturbing."

The husband of Babara Olson, Ted Olson not only succesfully defended President Reagan during the Iran-Contra affair, and presidential candidate George W. Bush in the Supreme Court case Bush v. Gore, which effectively determined the final result of the contested 2000 Presidential election, Ted Olson was also the acting attorney of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, trying to plea bargain a mistrial in the Pollard case ....

About the funding of the Contras, did the Israelis pay Gary Webb a visit? Were the activities, today known as the Iran-Contra affair, actually the inevitable needed machinations of the moving of drug related operations from Colombia to Afghanistan ?

Listen to the The Ugly Truth Podcast Dec 23, 2010 where former CIA field agent and station chief Phillip Giraldi discusses how dangerous the actions of Pollard were, and still have severe impact today. The interview ( UT23DEC2010DankofGiraldiFIN.mp3) was held just after Israel's latest push to have Israeli spy Jonathon Pollard released from prison.

Eustace Mullins also claimed that 911 was persued by the Mossad. Inside "Eustace Mullins lays bare the myth around the Zionist conspiracy." Mullins explains things further.

NORAD intercepts Russian aircraft, September 29, 2006













Rafi Eitan: Ready shelters for Iran attack


Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:35:43 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" stock@stokkie.net
To: cloak.dagger@gmail.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, tips@infowars.com, 
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Subject: Re: Rafi Eitan: Ready shelters for Iran attack

Hi,

As was posted on infowars.com :

Eitan: Ready shelters for Iran attack
Jerusalem Post | August 22 2006
http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_eitan_ready_shelters_for_iran_attack.htm

  "Pensioners Minister Rafi Eitan called for the readying of bomb 
   shelters and reinforced rooms countrywide on Tuesday, in advance of 
   a possible conflict with Iran. 
   ..."

Now, who is Rafi Eitan?

Inside his book, "Crossing the Rubicon, the Decline of the American 
Empire at the and of the age of oil" [8] Michael C. Ruppert frequently 
mentions the Zionist and Mossad hooks to the 911 tragedy. A thing 
which seems to have slipped under the radar with many investigators is
the following.

page 155-156 of [8]:

  "The PROMIS-managed data could be anything from financial records of 
   banking institutions to compilations of various records used to 
   track the movements of terrorists. That made the program a natural 
   for Israel that, according Hamilton and many other sources, was one 
   of the first countries to acquire the bootlegged software from 
   Meese and company. As voluminously described by Inslaw attorney, 
   the late Elliot Richardson, the Israeli Mossad under the direction 
   of Rafi Eitan, allegedly modified the software yet again and sold 
   it throughout the Middle East. It was Eitan, the legendary Mossad 
   captor of Adolph Eichmann, according to Hamilton, who has 
   masqueraded as an Israeli prosecutor to enter Inslaw's DC offices 
   years earlier and obtain a firsthand demonstration of what PROMIS 
   could do.

   Not too many Arab nations would trust a friendly Mossad agent 
   selling computer programs. So the Mossad provided their modified 
   PROMIS to flamboyant British publishing magnate Robert Maxwell, a 
   World War II Jewish resistance fighter who has assumed the Anglo 
   name and British citizinship after the war. It was Maxwell, capable 
   of traveling the world and with enormous marketing resources, who 
   became the sales agent for PROMIS and then sold it to, amongst 
   others, the Canadian government. Maxwell drowned mysteriously in 
   late 1991, not long after investigative reporter Danny Caselaro was 
   "suicided" in West Virginia. Maxwell may not have been the only one 
   to send PROMIS north.


So Israel had access to the source code of PROMIS as one of the first 
non-USA countries. Leading articles on the Ptech software[3][4] state that 
Ptech software was derived from the PROMIS software code, and provides 
extra evidence that the Ptech startup, presumably a "Moslim 
Brotherhood" asset, was in fact overseen by secret Israeli intelligence.

As one should recall it was the Ptech software which created the almost 
total NORAD disaster on the morning of Sept 11, 2001. What most 
reporters don't mention in their 911 for truth articles is the fact 
that NORAD had almost no air support from Andrews Airforce Base that 
morning. It turns out that all of the fighterjets, except one or two, 
were on a mission somewhere else. So Andrews Airforce Base was basicly 
'shutdown' in terms of defensive capabilities. So what happened to 
Stuart Airforce Base? It was also 'shutdown' in the year 2000 [9]:


  "Christopher Bollyn, an investigative journalist working for the 
   American Free Press, has investigated the weird security practices 
   of airbases and airports in the North East area, after he found out 
   that NORAD was told to stay down [2].

   Bollyn reports about how the Port Authority of former Stuart 
   Airforce Base (only 60 miles north of the WTC Buildings) became a 
   privatily run and owned operation in the year 2000. Stuart Airforce 
   Base is today known as Stuart International Airport and is 
   currently the only privately owned Airport inside the United 
   States. The current owner is a british company, which has its base 
   in Houston, Texas.  

   The privatization of the Port Authority of Stuart Airforce Base and 
   the WTC buildings was overseen and directed by Ronald Lauder, a son 
   of Estee Lauder, the cosmetics company based in New York. He was 
   the director of the government privatization board and pushed this 
   agenda. Louis Eisenberg was in charge of the Port Authority of New 
   York and New Yersey at that time. He also oversaw the lease 
   negotiations, and managed to have Larry Silverstein get his lease 
   deal on the WTC buildings 1., 2. and 7. on July 26, 2001.

   Near Stuart Airbase is Boston Logan Airport which reportedly had a 
   total lack of security during the twin tower attacks. The Security 
   of Boston Logan Airport was run by Huntleigh USA Corp., a whole 
   subsidiary of ICTS (International Consultants on Targeted Security) 
   based in Amsterdam ( http://www.ictseurope.com/ ), ICTS however 
   turns out to be a 100% Mossad operation, as was claimed by Bollyn."


This was only one part of the plot. What was much more intervening was 
that Ptech software which was hooked up to the NORAD command center, 
was compromised by the Mossad and Israeli software companies.  On the 
morning of 911 from a command bunker somewhere, false messages and planes 
were simulated, in order to have the military staff of NORAD go total 
nuts (**). What's even more damning is that people have testified that Vice 
President Dick Cheney was inside that Bunker in order to mislead the 
NORAD software with false messages.

A two part article about Ptech and 911, which is beafed up with 
pointers to the "Muslim Brotherhood" was published on the leading 
website of From The Wilderness (FTW) [3][4].

Formally spoken Ptech was a small startup company founded in 1994 by a 
Libanese Muslim immigrant, Oussama Ziade, who came in 1985 to the USA.  
Closer investigations into this company show that there are indeed ties 
to the Israelische MOSSAD  [5][6][7].  The investigating journalist in 
this matter, Christopher Bollyn, was however forced to go in hiding 
after "undercover" police got him arrested under strange circumstances 
[10]. What's even more amazing, Michael C. Ruppert was recenlty also 
harrased and decided to leave the country [11].

Besides the role of Ptech software during 911 (see also the Vanity Fair 
article [1]) it should be mentioned that almost every fighterjet in 
North East of America was on assignment or exercise elsewhere. And at 
the place of the attacks, Manhatten and Washington, were no fighterjets 
available that morning. Certain investigators have mentioned that NORAD 
was told to stay down. I claim that NORAD that morning was "SHUTDOWN" 
with regard to defensive capabilities. As we saw, the nearby military 
airports, Stuart and Andrews were 'shutdown', and the rest of the 
planes was elsewhere on exercise :

page 336 from [8]:

  "As it turns out, on September 11th, various agencies including
   NORAD, the FAA, The Canadian Air Force, The National Reconnaissance
   Office, and possibly the Pentagon were conducting as many as five
   wargame drills -- in some cases involving hijacked airliners; in
   some cases also involving blips deliberately inserted on FAA and
   military radar screens which were present during (at least) the
   first attacks; and which in some cases had pulled significant
   fighter resources away from the northeast US on September 11. In
   addition, a close reading of key news stories published in the
   spring of 2004 revealed for the first time that some of these
   drills were "live-fly" exercises where actual aircraft were
   simulating teh behavior of hijacked airliners in real life; all of
   this as the real attacks geban. The fact that these excercises had
   never been systematicly and thoroughly explored in the mainstream
   press, or publicly by Congress, or at least publicly in any detail
   by the so-called Independent 9/11 Commission made me think that
   they might be the Grail.
      That's exactly what they turned out to be."


page 337-338 from [8]:

  "That Vigilant Guardian had a direct impact on the Northeast Air
   Defense Sector in which all four hijackings occurred was confirmed
   in a December 2003 original story by NJ.com, a New Yersey-based
   service also summarizing all major stories published by New Jersey
   press outlets.

      NORAD also has confirmed it was running two mock drills on
      September 11 at various radar sites and command centers in the
      United States and Canada, including air force bases in upstate
      New York. Florida, Washington and Alaska. One drill, Operation
      Vigilant Guardian, began a week before September 11 and
      reflected a cold war mind-set: Participants practiced for an
      attack across the North Pole by Russian forces{9}.

   The story never named the second drill. and the assertion that it
   was strictly a cold war-type exercise is belied by direct
   statements of the principals involved that day. The NJ.com story
   also raised another chilling issue.

      Investigators at the September 11 commission confirm they are
      investigating whether NORAD's attention was drawn in one
      direction -- toward the North Pole -- while the hijackings came
      from an entirely different region{10}.

   {9}  Mike Kelly, "NORAD confirmed two mock drills on September 11,"
        NJ.com, December 5, 2003.
   {10} Ibid."


So who dunnit? Well maybe ask this Eitan dude, he also seems to know 
when to go hiding in atomic bomb shelters.

Cheers,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

[1] "9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes"
By MICHAEL BRONNER
, August 3, 2006
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/08/norad200608
(**) Inside the Vanity Fair article the following is mentioned :


  "It looks like Washington again. Three minutes after the Pentagon is 
   hit, Scoggins, at Boston Center, is back on the phone. The Boston 
   controllers are now tracking Delta 1989 Boston to Las Vegas which 
   fits the same profile as the other hijackings: cross-country, out 
   of Boston, lots of fuel, and possibly off course. But this one's 
   different from the others in one key respect: the plane's beacon 
   code is still working. In this chase, NEADS will have a chance, as 
   the excitement in Dooley's last line reflects: "
So not only did all _REPORTED_ hijackings originate from Boston Logan, its was also Boston Center's military liaison, Colin Scoggins, a civilian manager, who issued several false warnings to NORAD.

[2] "FLIGHT 93 SHOT DOWN"
by Christopher Bollyn
, July 25, 2005
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/flight_93.html

[3] PTECH, 9/11, and USA-SAUDI TERROR - Part I
by Michael Kane
, January 20, 2005
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml

[4] PTECH, 9/11, and USA-SAUDI TERROR PART II
by Michael Kane
, January 27, 2005
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml

[5] "Ptech workers tell the story behind the search"
by Dan Verton
, January 17, 2003
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,77682,00.html

[6] "Mossad - The Israeli Connection To 911"
By Christopher Bollyn
, Exclusive to American Free Press, 4-14-5
http://www.rense.com/general64/moss.htm

[7] "Israelis Hold Keys to NSA and U.S. Government Computers"
By: ChristopherBollyn
, Thursday, 15 June 2006
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=89717

Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil, by Michael C. Ruppert Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil, by Michael C. Ruppert Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil, by Michael C. Ruppert [8] "Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil"
by Michael C. Ruppert, Catherine Austin Fitts

Product Details
Paperback: 696 pages
Publisher: New Society Publishers (October 15, 2004) Language: English
ISBN: 0865715408
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865715408/102-9908478-8977762

[9] "911 was a Mossad Operation"
by Robert M. Stockmann
, May 15, 2006
http://crashrecovery.org/911/

[10] "9/11 INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST HARASSED AND BEATEN AT HIS HOME
BY UNDERCOVER COPS"
,
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91920

[11] "BY THE LIGHT OF A BURNING BRIDGE
A Permanent Goodbye to the United States"
by Michael C. Ruppert

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml



Comverse Infosys, overseas Israeli company supplying wiretapping equipment for US law enforcement Amdocs (Israel) Limited, generates all US Phonebilling data














FOX News : Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.?


On 12/12/01 FOX News started a small four part series investigation
whether or not Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S...  Carl Cameron, the
investigative research journalist for FOX News appeared on nation wide
television with hard fact results which were too embarrassing for the
Whitehouse Administration, 79th United States Attorney General John
Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller to comment on..

Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller embarassed by the FOX News camera

informationclearinghouse.info archived this four part series in 
Quicktime video format, but recently these clips seem to have 
disappeared. So here comes :

Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.?
by Carl Cameron, Published: 12/12/01 FOX News.
 part 1 : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
 part 2 : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7544.htm
 part 3 : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6480.htm
 part 4 : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5133.htm

Here's why Fox had to pull this gear down. Mike from http://prothink.org/
analyzed Carl Cameron's FOX four part series and nails it down brilliantly :
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=899_1207204669



The Lowy Institute









Zionist Circles Benefit From WTC Collapse


Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:25:17 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, 
     too@slingshot.co.nz, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, 
     palast@gregpalast.com, tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, 
     henry@savethemales.ca, prophecy@texemarrs.com, 
     smith@iamthewitness.com, eric@iamthewitness.com, 
     captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net, 
     takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, 
     articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il, 
     michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com, crescentandcross@gmail.com, 
     tips@infowars.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com, 
     eric@vaticanassassins.org>
Subject: Re: House report on Katrina is hurting Chertoff
In-Reply-To: 
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:48:44 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Robert M. Stockmann 
> To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, too@slingshot.co.nz,
>      wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, palast@gregpalast.com,
>      tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, henry@savethemales.ca,
>      prophecy@texemarrs.com, smith@iamthewitness.com, eric@iamthewitness.com,
>      captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net,
>      webmaster@rense.com, articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il,
>      michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com, crescentandcross@gmail.com,
>      tips@infowars.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com,
>      eric@vaticanassassins.org
> Subject: House report on Katrina is hurting Chertoff
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> "Upcoming House Report on Katrina Details Failures"
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5203365
> 
>   "For example, the report notes that the White House was unable to 
>    confirm for top officials, including the president, that the levees 
>    in New Orleans had broken until almost 24 hours after the fact. Yet 
>    the day before, numerous reports had been issued that the levees 
>    had indeed been breached. The report also cites the inability of 
>    FEMA officials in New Orleans to communicate with their 
>    counterparts in Baton Rouge. 
> 
>    The report is especially critical of Homeland Security Secretary 
>    Michael Chertoff for not taking control of the crisis earlier, and 
>    for failing to implement certain emergency procedures. "Secretary 
>    Chertoff executed these responsibilities, late, ineffectively or 
>    not at all," the report found. 
> 
>    In minority views released Sunday, Democrats who worked on the 
>    investigation said Chertoff should be replaced."
> 
> Next the rumors go off on the blogs :
>
> "Gonzales to be replaced by Chertoff?"
> http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/25/gonzales-to-be-replaced-by-chertoff/
>
> "Maybe Trading Up Soon at Justice"
> http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2007/8/24/maybe-trading-up-soon-at-justice.html
> 
> 
> But here comes the best posting i seen sofar on haloscan :
> 
> http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=katsiva&comment=8106692871449911882#2556569
> 
>   "LA Times: "When President Clinton took office, he fired all the 
>    U.S. attorneys who had served under his Republican predecessor 
>    except one: New Jersey U.S. Attorney Michael Chertoff." [1] 
>  
>    That's some exceptional guy, as the article shows. It reveals 
>    something quite out of the ordinary about Michael Chertoff.
>  
>    Not a word from anyone in power about Chertoff's successful defense 
>    of a known bin Laden financier. Even though the Bergen Record 
>    newspaper had published the facts of the case in a series of 
>    articles. This news was never picked up nationally -- somehow not 
>    being newsworthy enough to rate a few lines in the major press -- 
>    and they call this "freedom" and "democracy," ad nauseum.
>  
>    Michael Chertoff was confirmed by the senate in a vote of 98-0.
>  
>    http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2005/10/butcher-of-new-orleans.html
>    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm#_ftn24
>  
>    Think back to the Katrina debacle. remember how Bush stepped out in 
>    front of Chertoff and said "blame me" - not Chertoff?
>  
>    Bush was protecting Chertoff. What does Chertoff have on the Bush 
>    family?
>  
>    http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick4.htm
>    anonymous | 08.26.07 - 8:51 pm | #  "
>    
> Hmm why is that Wayne Madsen article nowhere to be found anymore? I 
> subscribed to waynemadsenreport.com since it became a pay for intel 
> site, well one needs to earn some bucks. So what is the new url for the 
> Artstudents.htm article? How about it Wayne? Leland Lehrman has this to 
> comment :
> 
> Involvement Of Republican Jewish Coalition & Israel In 911
> By Leland Lehrman
> leland.lehrman@gmail.com
> 9-3-6
> http://goldismoney.info/forums/archive/index.php/t-60524.html
> 
>   "See Wayne Madsen on the subject at 
>    http://waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
>    Since the Israeli Art Students mystery is one of the most dangerous 
>    subjects currently available to investigators such as ourselves, it is 
>    also one of the underreported aspects of 9/11. Here's what Salon.com 
>    author Christopher Ketcham had to say about it as quoted in Wayne 
>    Madsen's book Jaded Tasks: 
>    http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/05/07/students/index.html
>     "According to a high-level intelligence agent who spoke with 
>      Ketcham, "people involved in the investigation of the Israeli spies 
>      were at personal danger of being killed." The agent told Ketcham: 
>      "There are a lot of people under a lot of pressure right now 
>      because there's a great effort to discredit the story, discredit 
>      the connections, prevent people from going further."
> 

Leland Lehrman also mentions this article by Christopher Bollyn :

"Zionist Circles Benefit From WTC Collapse"
http://www.gatago.com/alt/crime/3121492.html

  "Exclusive to American Free Press, Date: 09-03-2006

   By Christopher Bollyn

   Larry Silverstein, lease-holder of the World Trade Center, and 
   Lewis Eisenberg, the man who negotiated the lease, are key 
   supporters of Israel who have both held high positions in the 
   largest Israeli fundraising institution in the United States.

   Silverstein and his Australian-Israeli partner, Frank Lowy, are the 
   real estate developers who obtained 99-year leases on the rental 
   and retail spaces of the World Trade Center shortly before the 
   catastrophe of Sept. 11.

   Although their leased property is destroyed, the lease-holders 
   themselves stand to gain billions of dollars from insurance.

   Eisenberg, the former chairman of the Port Authority of New York 
   and New Jersey, personally arranged the privatization of the World 
   Trade Center property and oversaw the negotiations that delivered 
   the leases into the private hands of Silverstein and Lowy."

So here we have the other name, which is seldom mentioned : Frank Lowy.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lowy :

  "In 2003 Frank Lowy set up the Lowy Institute for International 
   Policy, an international policy think tank devoted to foreign 
   affairs.[3] This has led to Lowy being awarded the Woodrow Wilson 
   Award for Corporate Citizenship in 2005.[4]

   Lowy was a board member of the Reserve Bank of Australia and has 
   been awarded a Companion of the Order of Australia."

"Companion of the Order of Australia" ? Wow whats that??
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companion_of_the_Order_of_Australia :

  "The Order was established by the Queen of Australia by Letters 
   Patent on February 14, 1975. Before the establishment of the Order, 
   Australian citizens received British honours. The original Order 
   only had three grades: Companion, Officer and Member.

ehhhhh, the Queen of Australia?? Who might that be then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Australia :

  "In Australia, the Queen's official title is: Elizabeth the Second, 
   by the Grace of God, Queen of Australia and Her other Realms and 
   Territories, Head of the Commonwealth."

Cheers,

Robert
PS.
[3] http://www.lowyinstitute.org/
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net


[1] "Chertoff Nomination Gets Bipartisan Praise"
By DONNA DE LA CRUZ, Associated Press Writer,

5:48 PM PST, January 11, 2005.
http://crashrecovery.org/911/chertoff/latimes.html

Christopher Bollyn, Journalist Sans Frontieres















The 'Bollyn' Website


Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:32:28 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, 
     too@slingshot.co.nz, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, 
     palast@gregpalast.com, tom@tomflocco.com,
     skolnick@ameritech.net, henry@savethemales.ca,
     prophecy@texemarrs.com, smith@iamthewitness.com,
     captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net, 
     takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, 
     articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il, 
     crescentandcross@gmail.com, tips@infowars.com, 
     cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com, 
     eric@vaticanassassins.org
Subject: The 'Bollyn' Website
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Hi,

On August 15, 2006, Christopher Bollyn was attacked and tasered by three 
unidentified and armed men wearing jeans and body armor on his houses 
front lawn. Lateron the local coppers harassed him somemore on the 
Hoffman Estates Police Department.

On October 7, 2006, Bollyn is next fired by his employer American Free 
Press, after AFP accuses Bollyn of falsely accusing AFP as "The 
American Free Press is under Zionist control."

On November 4, 2006, Christopher Bollyn unmasks Michael Chertoff and its 
Family. Bollyn explains that the Chertoff family has been involved in 
the Talmudic, Zionist movement for many generations.

On November 15, 2006, a new domain name bollyn.com is registered by a 
Estonian dude by the name of Kenneth Pea :

  "$ whois bollyn.com

   Whois Server Version 2.0

   Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
   with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
   for detailed information.

   Domain Name: BOLLYN.COM
   Registrar: ONLINENIC, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.35.com
   Referral URL: http://www.OnlineNIC.com
   Name Server: NS0.NETPOINT.EE
   Name Server: NS2.NETPOINT.EE
   Status: ok
   Updated Date: 15-nov-2006
   Creation Date: 15-nov-2006
   Expiration Date: 15-nov-2007
   
   Registrant:
   Kenneth Pea kenneth@net.ee +372.56259044
   Netpoint Systems OU
   Ehte 5-79
   Tallinn,HM,ESTONIA 10318
   
   Domain Name:bollyn.com
   Record last updated at 2006-11-15 05:16:10
   Record created on 2006/11/15
   Record expired on 2007/11/15
   
Why would Bollyn allow or order some "Polka Kid" to register 
bollyn.com? The oder from this Polka Kid's urine is rather nasty, and 
certainly not kosher, knowing what happened just a day before....

On November 16, 2006, Bollyn unmasks the real identity of the leader of 
the American Democratic Party, Rahm Emanuel.  Rahm Emanuel belongs to a 
hard-core Zionist family from Israel that was part of the terrorist 
gang called Irgun. In an article
"The son of a Terrorist, Rahm Emanuel's Dirty Secret"
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Emanuel.html

Rahm's father, Benjamin, was a member of the Irgun, the Zionist 
terrorist organization that coined a new word as they blew up hotels, 
train stations, and other buildings in Palestine in the 1930s and 40s.

Next a further series of interviews are given with Daryl Bradford Smith 
and Eric Hufschmidt and published at iamthewitness.com, but never was 
there any remark or mentioning of Bollyn's own website www.bollyn.com ..

On February 1, 2007, Christopher Bollyn appears with an attorney at a 
Court Hearing in the Circuit Court of Cook County, Third Municipal 
District, at 2121 Euclid in Rolling Meadows, Illinois.  Bollyn also 
reports about this at
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn_in-Court-31Jan2007.html

On January 23, 2007, Christopher Bollyn is interviewed by CNN.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-CNN-interview.html

Around the same time the website www.bollyn.com goes live for the 
first time, announcing itself as :
"Christopher Bollyn, Journalist Sans Frontieres"
http://web.archive.org/web/20070210005325/http://www.bollyn.com/

On May 31, 2007, The Trial on Christopher Bollyn begins at the Cook 
County Circuit Court in Rolling Meadows, Illinois and lasts for 3 days. 
and reports about that at
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=105069

  "The Bollyn Trial will continue for a third day on Monday, June 4, 
   at the Cook County Circuit Court in Rolling Meadows, Illinois."

Next a woman by the name of Linda Shelton shows up and presents herself 
as a friend of the Bollyn Family and reports about the 4 day trial of 
Bollyn, which she also herself attended :

"THE TRIAL OF INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN"
By Dr. Linda Shelton, Phd, MD, Wednesday, 13 June 2007
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=105561

On June 5, 2007, Bollyn was convicted after a four-day trial and two 
hours of jury deliberations. The sentence is scheduled for June 25, 
2007, but fails to appear.

"Christopher Bollyn didn't show up for sentencing"
http://www.dailyherald.com/search/printstory.asp?id=326286
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2263

After that Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmidt from 
iamthewitness.com seem to have lost their contacts with Christopher 
Bollyn, where they warn for all kinds of prevarications of fabricated 
authenticity of communications with Bollyn. And i must admit that 
Schmidt and Hufschmidt seem to be right on the money with these 
suspicions.

The creation date of the website bollyn.com by a Estonian Polka kid, by 
the name of Kenneth Pea on 15-nov-2006 is very suspicious also, as this 
website today is used as a credible source for authenticated 
communications by Christopher Bollyn.

Enough said, anyone who has seen or spoken Bollyn face to face should 
wake up from his/her slumber and make a warning, and speak up.

Robert M. Stockmann
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org stock@stokkie.net



domain-history.domaintools.com




The bollyn.com domainname scam


Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:24:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: smith@iamthewitness.com,  
Subject: The bollyn.com domainname scam
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Hi,

In the mean time i found a way to check upon domainname ownership
history as http://domain-history.domaintools.com/ .

See the attachement for a couple of printouts. It's very very
unlikely that bollyn.com was only registered on 2006-11-20,
as bolyn.com and boleyn.com were already registered in 2001,
where the 2001 registration of bolyn.com was part of a shark
sale of pre-registered collections of regular surnames
by www.domainsystems.com out of Florida...

Still the domain history shows no records of bollyn.com before 
2006-11-20, which would mean that the old whois records of 
bollyn.com have been wiped ....

Why is this important? Well, just try to buy such a domain name today
and your wallett will get ripped apart. Helje claims it was only $10,=
or so.

Cheers,

Robert
PS. One might give www.domainsystems.com out of Florida a call
    to check if they also had bollyn.com for sale, back then
    around Nov 2001. boleyn.com was registered in Jan 2001, almost
    11 months earlier by a guy who's name was indeed Boleyn.
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:10:28 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann 
To: smith@iamthewitness.com, eric@iamthewitness.com
Subject: Re: http://crashrecovery.org/911/#bollyn (fwd #2)


Hello Darryl and Eric,

Helje took some time to answer my questions about the bollyn.com domain 
name, see below. It might be interesting to find out the details of the 
real ownership history of the bollyn.com domainname, with the owner of 
the .com domain hyarchie :

  "[jackson:stock]:(~)$ dig com.
   
   ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> com.
   ;; global options:  printcmd
   ;; Got answer:
   ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16396
   ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
   
   ;; QUESTION SECTION:
   ;com.                           IN      A
   
   ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
   com.                    883     IN      SOA     a.gtld-servers.net. 
                nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1187132088 1800 900 604800 900
   
   ;; Query time: 2 msec
   ;; SERVER: 10.0.18.71#53(10.0.18.71)
   ;; WHEN: Wed Aug 15 00:55:22 2007
   ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 94
   
   [jackson:stock]:(~)$ nslookup 
   > set type=NS
   > server a.gtld-servers.net
   Default server: a.gtld-servers.net
   Address: 192.5.6.30#53
   > com.
   Server:         a.gtld-servers.net
   Address:        192.5.6.30#53
   
   com     nameserver = e.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = d.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = l.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = k.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = i.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = h.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = b.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = f.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = m.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = c.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = g.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = j.gtld-servers.net.
   com     nameserver = a.gtld-servers.net.
   > [jackson:stock]:(~)$ whois gtld-servers.net
   
   Whois Server Version 2.0
   
   Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
   with many different competing registrars. Go to
   http://www.internic.net for detailed information.
   
      Domain Name: GTLD-SERVERS.NET
      Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
      Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
      Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
      Name Server: A2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: C2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: D2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: E2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: F2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: G2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: H2.NSTLD.COM
      Name Server: L2.NSTLD.COM
      Status: serverDeleteProhibited
      Status: serverTransferProhibited
      Status: serverUpdateProhibited
      Updated Date: 14-jun-2005
      Creation Date: 16-feb-1994
      Expiration Date: 16-feb-2015
   
   >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:55:34 UTC <<<
   
   http://www.networksolutions.com
   
   Visit AboutUs.org for more information about GTLD-SERVERS.NET
   
   AboutUs: GTLD-SERVERS.NET 
   
   Registrant:
   VERISIGN INC.
      21345 Ridgetop Circle
      Dulles, VA 20166
      US
   
      Domain Name: GTLD-SERVERS.NET
   
      Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
         NOC, VeriSign             rcc@verisign.com
         21345 Ridgetop Circle
         Dulles, VA 20166
         US
         703-948-4300 fax: 703-948-0717
   
   
      Record expires on 16-Feb-2015.
      Record created on 16-Feb-1994.
      Database last updated on 14-Aug-2007 18:56:17 EDT.
   
      Domain servers in listed order:
   
      A2.NSTLD.COM                 192.5.6.31
      C2.NSTLD.COM                 192.26.92.31
      D2.NSTLD.COM                 192.31.80.31
      E2.NSTLD.COM                 192.12.94.31
      F2.NSTLD.COM                 192.35.51.31
      G2.NSTLD.COM                 192.42.93.31
      H2.NSTLD.COM                 192.54.112.31
      L2.NSTLD.COM                 192.41.162.31
   
   [jackson:stock]:(~)$ "

So go check with Verizon to find out the domain ownership history
of bollyn.com. Why is this important? Well Helje claims she
bought bollyn.com last year for a meager $10,= with that Estonian
ISP... Well one might as well tell your neighbors daughter
you just won $2 billion in the lottery.

Helje sent me quite a polite letter, but read carefully as she,
like a snake, tries to plant a possible wedge between you two guys.
That's maybe why i never had a relationship...

Anyway, chances are high someone knows of the emails i have been
forwarding to you both.

Kind Regards,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:11:38 +0300
From: Mere Sinine 
To: Robert M. Stockmann 
Subject: Re: http://crashrecovery.org/911/#bollyn

Dear Robert,

I really did not have time to check you out. As I see, you have had no
interest or idea to check out my background either.

I am Estonian. The web designers in Estonia do great work. I have used
their skills before:
www.elaestonia.org
www.bollynbooks.com
www.bollyn.com

I think these home pages are more pleasing to the eye than an average
American site which is too cluttered and boring.

Why do you think that bollyn.com must have been registered before? There are
very few Bollyns in the world, it's a rare name. I bought it last year for
a regular price of $10 or less. Chris has known abour Rahm Manuel when he
was the Chief of Staff, the right hand man, for President Clinton and who
helped him to push through Nafta. Chris has studied Israel and Palestine
since 1975 so there is no co-incidence between rahm Manuel and creating the
bollyn.com site at a certain date. Sorry. I just finally got my act together
and bought the domain name.

I use Netpoint servers because they arenew and cheap and I can do my
business in Estonian which very few people understand (about 1 million).

 You maybe do not know but most of Skype crew for example is also working in
Estonia. Estonia is the most e-country in the world, including e-government,
etc. Very little paperwork.

I think you are reading too much into dates, etc. looking for some Devil in
the details as far as Chris' legal saga is concerned. The reality is often
much simpler. He has written about it extensively in his articles.

I should have helped Chris to create his own website much earlier. He has
been very busy researching and writing, he does not have time to surf on
internet, listen to the podcast and read slander like Eric Hufschmid who
does nothing but sit at his computer. Well, he is a sofware engineer. He
used to choose great photos for Chris' articles that he posted and we were
quite good friends until he and Daryl started to spread lies about us as if
we were missing and dead, hiding, afraid, etc.

Don't you think it's really strange that while Eric H. has known all the
time that we are fine since Chris has been in e-mail and phone contact with
him, his partner (or "just a voice on the phone" as Eric describes Daryl BS)
refuses to believe him. Most likely Daryl has another agenda. He has spread
lies about us before, like right after we visited him in France in 2005.
Something is wrong with this picture. He was very appaulled when I asked him
at the dinner table whether he had been to the military.

Eric told us not to pay too much attention to what they write on
iamthewitness.com. ????
Eric has even gone that far to say that "it is even good that you are
missing, people will have to wake up that fight against Zionism is a serious
stuff."

Who is he fooling? What kind of a war are they fighting? Chris can not
associate himself with such goofballs who lack any depth, any intellectual
understanding about Zionism. They blame Ernst Zündel, David Irving and
Germar Rudolf of being agents of Zionists. It is quite clear that Daryl is
doing a nice job *for* the Zionists. They could not ask for a better
disciple.

Daryl is also anti-islam and anti-Arab, besides being (anti-German). Who
does he think is on the front line fighting Zionism on a daily basis?
Answer: the Arabs.

Eric woke up from his slumber only after 9-11. His knowledge about the
subject is very shallow. He has no idea what is happening with Chris case in
court either and he is not interested.

Feel free to ask me any questions if you think anything stinks too much
here. We have nothing to hide. I am far behind updating Chris' website since
I have been sick. I really can't spend too much time at the computer while
the summer is so lovely.

Best wishes,
Helje

I


On 8/11/07, Robert M. Stockmann  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Administrator wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:34:04 +0300 (EEST)
> > From: Administrator 
> > Reply-To: helje@bollyn.com
> > To: stock@stokkie.net
> > Subject: Re: http://crashrecovery.org/911/#bollyn
> >
> > Re: http://crashrecovery.org/911/#bollyn
> >
> > Dear Robert,
> >
> > Rest assured, Bollyn.com was bought and is administered by Christopher
> > Bollyn and me, his wife. You seem to be able to send e-mails regarding
> > same to a whole host of people you know and/or associate with
> >
> > stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de,
> >      too@slingshot.co.nz, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com,
> >      palast@gregpalast.com, tom@tomflocco.com,
> >      skolnick@ameritech.net, henry@savethemales.ca,
> >      prophecy@texemarrs.com, smith@iamthewitness.com,
> >      captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net,
> >      takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com,
> >      articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il,
> >      crescentandcross@gmail.com, tips@infowars.com,
> >      cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com,
> >      eric@vaticanassassins.org
> >
> >
> > but never to us to get a direct answer. Why not? You seem to have some
> > questions but instead of seeking answers, you spread speculations.
> >
> > We are not hiding behind a certain name Kenneth Pea. This is what
> happens
> > when you use netpoint.ee as your server. Kenneth Pea is obviously a
> person
> > in charge. If you are a researcher, call Mr. Pea and find out. I advise
> > you to stop speculating and spreading hysteria like Daryl BS.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Helje
>
> Dear Helje,
>
> Why would you people register a domain named like bollyn.com, which
> surely must have been registered _before_ 15-nov-2006 by
> OTHER people, in a former Soviet Union U.S.S.R. country like
> Estonia?
>
> The Illuminati's (e.g. people who are on the Bohemeian Grove membership
> lists) pedo kiddo project is exactly that, world communism.  I sure
> hope you understand that, and if you as an American family register a
> domain bollyn.com in a former U.S.S.R. country like Estonia, a day
> after your husband finds out about Rahm Emanuel, that gives a very
> strange impression. To me certainly.
>
> Besides, if I would want to get stockmann.com or stockmann.nl registered
> in my name, you think that would cost a couple of EURO's and I would also
> register it with a rather uncommon registrar? If i wanted stockmann.nl
> on my name, that would cost me at least EUR 15,0000.= . Bollyn.com is
> to the Bollyn family the same. If Bollyn.com had not been registered
> yet by Chris himself, it must have already been taken by someone else
> somewhere in 1996, 1997 or 1998. You understand?
>
> So something stinks very badly here, Helje...
>
> Robert
> --
> Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
> Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
> crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net
>
>

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THE RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY











THE RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY


I also tried to get my warning about Christopher Bollyn posted on rumormillnews.com. Here's what the moderator replied :


From the_moderator@bringemon.org Sat Jul 21 05:35:33 2007
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Hi, 

Christopher is fine. 

Check with Eric Hufschmidt again, he just spoke to Bollyn on the phone last 
week I believe. 

Also, Dr. Linda Shelton is a Bollyn friend and I know that for sure. 

Several people have spoken to Bollyn by phone in the last week after people 
started spreading the rumors that there is something going on. 

There is nothing going on. 

Christopher and his wife have friends in Estonia, that is probably why the 
domain was taken out from there. 

There is no truth to any of these rumors that say that there is something 
wrong or that he is missing etc. 

Christopher is fine.
Thank you for your concern. 

He is the only one updating his web site so for updates from him check 
there, he also posts some of his updates to Rumor Mill News. 

Alexandra
Bemo Moderator

After the above reply I really wondered what was wrong with my submission to rumormillnews.com. Was it all just rumors? It didn't take long for me to realize that something must be wrong with rumormillnews.com itself. Here's what i found out :


Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:13:22 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: smith@iamthewitness.com,  
Subject: Re: rumormillnews.com
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 20:51:02 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Robert M. Stockmann 
> To: smith@iamthewitness.com, eric@iamthewitness.com
> Subject: rumormillnews.com
> 
> 
> Hello Daryl and Eric,
> 
> It sure don't look pretty. rumormillnews.com has always been the
> public publishing outlet as used by Chistopher Bollyn.
> 
> I never had a valid email address to send Bollyn a personal e-mail.
> I only could reply on the page of the article by clicking on
> 
> 
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;bem=107572
> 
> So basicly Bollyn has _ALWAYS_ been inaccessable to the normal audience
> and readership.
> 
> You have seen how rumormillnews.com reacted to my concern about 
> Christopher Bollyn missing. So rumormillnews.com is a pretty r0tten 
> p(w)horum as they sneak a message by Sam Danner through. Danner, the 
> elder, is just a sad old prick who just likes to still hang his dick 
> around, but simply cannot perform.
> 
> So who are the ppls behind rumormillnews.com ?
> 
> Registrant:
> Allan, Rayelan
>    ATTN: RUMORMILLNEWS.COM
>    c/o Network Solutions
>    P.O. Box 447
>    Herndon, VA.  20172-0447
> 
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/AMAZING_LIFE.htm
> 
> e-mail : rayelan@mindspring.com
> 
> Rayelan is the author of Diana, Queen of Heaven, The New World Religion.
> 
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/DianaIndex.htm
> 
> "OUR LADY OF FATIMA - A BLUE BEAM VISION? 
>  OR A TEST RUN FOR THE NEW WORLD RELIGION?"
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=57208
> 
>   "For many years I wondered if the Visions at Fatima could have been 
>    created with technology similar to Blue Beam techology, i.e. 
>    holographic. But if this was the case, was the technology from 
>    earth or from extraterrestrials? 
> 
>    My ex-husband, Gunther Russbacher once told me that the "secret 
>    government" is 150-200 years ahead of the rest of us. He told me 
>    that we have been able to travel to the moon and Mars since the 
>    50s. He said there is a base on the moon, and Mars has been being 
>    "terra-formed" since then. He talked a lot about the science that 
>    Hitler has access to, and one of these technologies were things 
>    that could be adapted for use in mind control and holography."
> 
> So not only is she a genuine Bitch, She's also the ex-wife of
> Gunther Russbacher. Wow, how about that ?
> 
> Just read into several books about Russbacher, this guy flew George 
> H.W. Bush in a SR-71 blackbird plane to Paris to have Bush meet with 
> Hashemi Rafsanjani as part of Operation October Surprise, see page 
> 139,140 and 160 of
> http://www.druggingamerica.com/ESubverting_America_one_part.pdf
> http://crashrecovery.org/911/ESubverting_America_one_part.pdf
> 
> She rallied in 1992 and 1993 to have Russbacher released from Navy 
> Intelligence Incarceration see http://wikiwork/wackenhut/wackenhut3.pdf

the URL should be http://crashrecovery.org/wackenhut/wackenhut3.pdf

inside wackenhut3.pdf was a important scanned letter missing :

"Correspondence from Moshe Ben-Manash to Lt. Cmdr. Robert Hunt, 11/11/93
 Embassy of Israel, Washington D.C."

Russbacher also did some SR-71 jobs for Israeli secret service...

> 
> So how real is she and her credibility? I dunno...  Just investigate 
> into what kind of wifes are hooked up with highly classified CIA Navy 
> Air pilots.... Why not ask Kay Griggs about Rayelan Allan Russbacher,
> and who she really is.
> 
> rumormillnews.com just started to smell for me like some hideout for
> a couple of old and new CIA dudes, which flock around Russbacher's
> ex-wife.... The people's there might all be tied and related to
> the CIA service men and women who were used during Iran contra.
> 
> Chris Bollyn might then be a double spy for the CIA??
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Robert
> 

-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

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The Bijlmer disaster in Amsterdam 1992











The Bijlmer disaster


The Mossad certainly has had some experience with huge airplanes crashing into flat buildings, allthough this case seems to have been a real accident :

On October 4, 1992 a Boeing 747 crashed into flatbuildings Groeneveen and Klein-Kruitberg of the Amsterdam Bijlmermeer, a city housing project where at the time mostly poor blacks from Suriname and the Netherlands Antilles were living. The Boeing 747, a freightcarrier of the Israeli Airline Company El Al, was registered as flight LY 1862, and was carrying a unknown non-registered cargo. After the disaster, there were rumours that the Israeli secret service had tried to recover some of the cargo, or the flight recording boxes. The plane, like all Boeing 747s at that time, also contained about 400 kg of depleted uranium (**) as trim weight in the tail, a fact unknown during the recovery effort. The flight recording boxes were never found.

What was most peculiar is the route which the pilot took in order to complete a rescue landing on schiphol airport. After the 1st May Day the pilot could have safely manouvered the plane towards a landing strip on Schiphold Airport, but instead he only managed to cruise above civilian housing in the center of Amsterdam, leading to the awefull crash.

For more pictures see http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijlmerramp

(**) The use of Depleted Uranium based munitions was first observed during the Six Day War in June 1967, where the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) used DU in their battle with Egypt. Depleted Uranium, as it also has been used by the US Military in both Gulf wars, will in effect render the targeted territory as nuclear waste land where healthy new born children are a thing from the past, for eternal times to come, as the half life of DU is 4.5 billion years. Although the radioactive level might not be that high, long time exposure to DU dust, as it is created after firing, will effectively transform the entire human population into a degenerate species. The real damage to the Iraqi people will be seen in years to come. The act of using Depleted Uranium munitions has been outlawed by the United Nations assembly, yet the USA and Israel still use DU to this very day. This is truly an act BEYOND TREASON and should be judged accordingly.

BEYOND TREASON, The U.S. Government's Long History of Conducting Deadly Military Experiments BEYOND TREASON, The U.S. Government's Long History of Conducting Deadly Military Experiments [1] BEYOND TREASON
The U.S. Government's Long History of Conducting Deadly Military Experiments
Produced & Written by: Joyce Riley, Directed by: William Lewis,
Featuring Doug Rokke, Leuren Moret, Dennis Kyne and many more.

Format: NTSC, Full Screen, DVD-video
Region: Region 1
Studio: (c)2005 Power Hour Productions
Run Time: 100 Minutes (Including Bonus Material)
2 DISC SET, Includes BONUS CD-ROM with thousands of pages
of documents retrieved through the Freedom of Information Act and
many that were not.
http://www.thepowermall.com/#Beyond Treason
http://www.beyondtreason.com/




Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy, by Michael Collins Piper Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy,  by Michael Collins Piper













Was the Mossad involved in the JFK Assassination 1963 ?


In the below email it should of course read 'Eric Phelps' instead of 'Michael Phelps' who claims that Jesuit Priests did a triple clip job on JFK.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 02:11:00 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann stock@stokkie.net
To: Lenny Bloom cloak.dagger@gmail.com
Cc: skolnick@ameritech.net, tips@infowars.com, prisonplanetweb@hotmail.com,
     chamish@netvision.net.il, eric@vaticanassassins.org, tarpley@tarpley.net,
     takingaim@pacbell.net, stewwebb@sierranv.net, webmaster@rense.com,
     prophecy@texemarrs.com, iamthewitness@hotmail.com,
     wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com
Subject: Re: 911 coverup, update 3

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

> On Fri, 26 May 2006, Lenny Bloom wrote:
> 
>> I would like to add another question. To what degree was the
>> Mossad involved in the JFK Assassination 1963? Bystanders or Partakers?
>> Lenny

Hi Lenny,

Well there seems to be a whole book written on the role of the Mossad
during the Kennedy Assination in 1963 :

"Michael Collins Piper's The Final Judgment"
http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/final_jgmt_reviews.htm

 
 
  "The US mainstream media mentions many theories as to who killed 
   John F. Kennedy on November 22nd, 1963: Cuban exiles, the family of 
   South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem, Fidel Castro, FBI 
   Director J. Edgar Hoover, Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, LBJ, 
   the Mafia (getting close) and the CIA (right).  But the US 
   mainstream media never mentions one prime suspect: Israel. Could 
   it be that those who control the US mainstream media do not want 
   this explanation even mentioned?

   Michael Collins Piper's book, The Final Judgment, provides evidence 
   in support of the theory that JFK was assassinated in a combined 
   Mossad/CIA operation because he was an obstacle both to Israel's 
   development of the atomic bomb and (since JFK was planning to 
   withdraw from Vietnam) to the continuation of the CIA's 
   heroin-smuggling operations in South-East Asia.

   This book was first published in 1994. It was reissued as a 
   paperback in 2000 but Amazon now lists it as "out of stock", and 
   available only as a used book (priced at US$155 - over six times 
   the original list price of US$25).

   Below are given all eleven reviews of this book which appear on 
   Amazon's website (as at 2003-11-22) and at the end is a message on 
   this subject from Wade Frazier
   ..."

"Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy"
 by Michael Collins Piper
 Paperback: 760 pages
 Publisher: The Center for Historical Review; 5th ed edition (July 2000)
 Language: English
 ISBN: 0935036539
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0935036539/104-4391506-4678338

This certainly looks like a true treasure to keep in mind when one is
Book Hunting.

Als listen to Pipers last Thursdays radio show :
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper06.html
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0605/20060525_Thu_Piper.mp3
http://crashrecovery.org/911/20060525_Thu_Piper.mp3

Inside this show Piper certainly wipes the floor with Michael Phelps book
"Vatican Assassins" which documents that the Jesuits were behind
the Kennedy Assasination.

Regards,

Robert

> 
> Hi Lenny,
> 
> The investigation by Jim Garrison into the JFK Assassination is 
> the groundwork from which one should draw conclusions IMHO.
> 
> We saw Clay Shaw/Clay Bertrand : CIA
> We saw Jack Ruby : Mafia
> We saw David Ferrie : Mafia
> We saw Lee Harvey Oswald : CIA and Official Approved Patsie
> 
> A good movie, which shows Jim Garrisons investigation in detail, is 
> JFK the Movie, by Oliver Stone. Inside that movie a whistle blower from 
> the Pentagon who calls himself Mister X, played by Donald Sutherland, 
> tells it was basicly the Military Industrial Complex, who wanted 
> JFK removed, as JFK wanted to close down the Vietnam Frenzy.
> 
> If we compare 911 with the JFK Assassination, we see thats its DoD 
> inside the Pentagon who really pulls the strings. Why? Hmm who's got 
> the most biggest and expensive guns? Just look over the years since 
> 1948, which department has had the biggest budgets approved by the 
> appropriations committee's. Without any doubt, its the US Military which
> has received the most cash all these years since WWII. Look at how the 
> Bushes have feeded the Military with excessive cash.
> 
> Who pulls the strings inside the US Military? Why don't you ask 
> this Desperate General's Wife, where she tells about Lee Harvey 
> Oswald and her husband, having had the same treatment, by abuse of 
> homosexual acts. Supervisors of key personnel by the Chiefs of Staff in 
> a homosexual fashion. How so called 'rising stars' are getting 
> 'tail-hooked' and windup into a sexual extortion game for life. See how 
> she shows her diary and her current year book of CFR members. The Lady, 
> Kay Griggs is scared to death after almost beaten to death by her 
> husband. Her husband was a total mental wreckage, but is still in the 
> ranks of US Colonel. He was getting 'programmed' by his superiors on 2 
> hour boat trips. Listen how she tells about Henry Kissinger, where his 
> real name is actually Heinz Kissinger:
> 
> Kay Griggs, The Desperate General's Wife, talks about SHAPE and
> Blackmail In US Government :
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Kay+Griggs+Rick+Strawcutter
> 
> The above 6 hour interview is really a must see.
> 
> Now where does the US Military all of a sudden get all this weird 
> homosexual and sexual abuse practices from? Why should a Chief of Staff, 
> (or is it more Piece of Shaft?), Commandanties or Generals have sex 
> orgies with hookers, whilest their lawful Wife's are being told to 
> better get used to this? Why are the Special Ops into these sexual 
> practices, and next turn into the devil during their special ops 
> killings, torturing wife's and children? Why does she speak of "The 
> German Disease", "A really old German culture", which has infected all 
> of the key staffers inside the Military? Why does she speak of 
> "getting Brownie Points" after special ops have killed innocent and 
> honest people? 
> 
> Where does all this crap come from? Ain't it these Sabbathian, 
> Cabbalist and Frankist Elites which have done just the same during the 
> centuries? In 1947 Howard Watson Ambruster, writes in "Treason's Peace 
> - German Dyes and American Dupes " the following :
>
> "                                             THE HUGE INTERNATIONAL
>    chemical combine and cartel leader that is known as I.G. Farben had 
>    its beginning some seventy-five years ago, with the founding in 
>    Germany of six small coal-tar companies. By 1939 these six 
>    companies had grown into the ominous-sounding INTERESSEN 
>    GEMEINSCHAFT FARBENINDUSTRIE AKTIENGESELLSCHAFT, of FRANKFORT am 
>    MAIN, which translated literally, means "community of interests of 
>    the dye manufacturing companies."
>      I.G. Farben is usually discussed as a huge German cartel which 
>    controls chemical industries throughout the world and from which 
>    profits flow back to the headquarters in Frankfort. Farben, 
>    however, is no mere industrial enterprise conducted by Germans for 
>    the extraction of profits at home and abroad. Rather, it is and 
>    must be recognized as a cabalistic organization which, through 
>    foreign subsidiaries and by secret tie-ups, operates a far-flung 
>    and highly efficient espionage machine-the ultimate purpose being 
>    world conquest-and a world super-state directed by Farben."
>
> Kay Griggs tells that factions inside the US Military with  
> Zionist/Cabbalist beliefs basicly want to kill-off all the good people. 
> US Military staffers are getting awarded with "Brownie Points" for 
> that.
> 
> Now who are the Military Industrial Complex? Aren't they The Millmans, 
> The Kissingers, The Bushes, The Clintons, ex-Presidents and Prime 
> Ministers of approved blood lines (The Carlyle Group)? Why do some of 
> em (CFR members?) have double nationalities, both Israel and USA?
> 
> Now to your question, of how the Mossad was involved into the JFK 
> Assassination. I don't think so. Who done it then back in 1963?  It bet
> it was the same covert special ops of the Military where Kay Griggs 
> was talking about, after having just had their dose of (homo)sexual 
> abuse. Please remember that Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie and their 
> "programmer" Clay Shaw basicly were also into these absurd gay 
> practices. Basicly its a form of "traumatic" Mind Control :
> 
> In 1956 Dr. Wilhelm Reich (born in 1920) was murdered.  
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich
> His work and discovery of Orgone Energy related to mind control is not 
> available to the public, in fact it was burned by the FDA in August 
> 1956. Its about mind programming and control through sexuality. Somehow 
> energy of the sexual body is brought up to the mind. All of his work 
> is confiscated and in EXCLUSIVE and ACTIVE USE by the US Government.
> For more information see :
> 
> "The History of Mind Control"
> http://crashrecovery.org/mindcontrol/
> 
> Didn't we today see a US Military Staffer, General Michael Hayden 
> getting confirmed as 20th CIA director ?
> 
> Well thats my emphasis added.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Robert M. Stockmann
> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/25/06, Robert M. Stockmann  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Inside the google video
>>>
>>> "Aktenzeichen 9/11"
>>>
>>>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3505712702687232327&q=aktenzeichen
>>>
>>> Tom Flocco makes his final statements. Flocco claims that a
>>> governmental coverup of 911 has been proven without a shatter of a
>>> doubt. The only question which remains is weather Bush and Cheney are
>>> also the factual conspirators of 911. www.cloakanddagger.de,
>>> www.iamthewitness.com and myself currently come to the following
>>> conclusion :
>>>
>>> "911 was a Mossad Operation"
>>> http://crashrecovery.org/911/
>>>
>>> To what extent Bush en Cheney were aware of this Mossad operation,
>>> which already started during the 1st Clinton presidency, is a very
>>> good question.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Robert M. Stockmann
>>> --
>>> Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
>>> Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
>>> crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net
>>>
>>>
>>

-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net
A good introduction to "Final Judgment" was written by Michael Collins Piper himself inside feralnews.com. This website however seems to have gone underground? I could retrieve a copy though from "the JEWISH tribal review" website at [2] :

   Mossad and the JFK Assassination,
   Michael Collins Piper, Feral News

  "So while people have focused on how many assassins were involved, 
   and how many shots they fired at JFK and where the shots came from 
   and where the bullets hit, the real question of who was ultimately 
   responsible for the assassination-not who fired the bullets, but 
   who sponsored the assassins who fired those bullets-has been 
   ignored. Thus, to find out who is responsible for JFK's murder, we 
   have to find out WHY he was murdered-what motivated those who 
   orchestrated his assassination. Consider the wide-ranging array of 
   suspects that have been put forth: Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone; 
   The Soviet KGB; Fidel Castro; Anti-Castro Cubans; The "Mafia"; 
   Rogue CIA operatives and anti-Castro Cubans in collaboration with 
   elements of "the Mafia"; J.  Edgar Hoover and the FBI; Lyndon 
   Baines Johnson; Former Nazi intelligence officers; The Texas Oil 
   Barons; and The Military-Industrial Complex.

   Ten years ago, in 1992, a new suspect was added to the list. Former 
   Rep. Paul Findley (R-Ill.) made the little-noticed but intriguing 
   comment in the March 1992 issue of The Washington Report on Middle 
   East Affairs that "it is interesting but not surprising to note 
   that in all the words written about the assassination of John F. 
   Kennedy, Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, has never been 
   mentioned, despite the obvious fact Mossad complicity is as 
   plausible as any of the other theories." What Findley did not know 
   was at that very time I was in the process of preparing a volume 
   contending that the Mossad role alongside the CIA in the JFK 
   assassination, was, in fact, the big secret-the "missing link"-that 
   explained the entirety of the JFK conspiracy. The Mossad role is 
   what I have also called "the secret picture on the other side of 
   the jigsaw puzzle" of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

   My book summarizing this theory is entitled Final Judgment. What I 
   find quite remarkable is that while many Israelis today believe 
   that Israeli intelligence played a part in the assassination of 
   Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, many of Israel's friends in 
   America have reacted quite hysterically to my contention that the 
   Mossad played a role in the assassination of America's president. 
   In addition, although there are many who believe that the CIA had a 
   hand in the JFK assassination, quite a few of those same people are 
   fearful of mentioning the likelihood of a Mossad role.  Yet, as 
   journalist Andrew Cockburn has pointed out: "There has been since 
   almost the earliest days of the Israeli state and the earliest days 
   of the CIA a secret bond, basically by which Israeli intelligence 
   did jobs for the CIA and for the rest of American intelligence. You 
   can't understand what's been going on with American covert 
   operations and the Israeli covert operations until you understand 
   this secret arrangement." Cockburn's words are a rough overview of 
   the thesis that I have presented in Final Judgment.

   Although Final Judgment has never been in any major bookstore since 
   it was first published nearly a decade ago, some 30,000 copies are 
   in circulation-more copies than more widely-publicized books on the 
   topic. It is truly an "underground best-seller." It is now in its 
   760-page fifth edition, documented with 1,114 footnotes. And on 
   November 9, Dar El Ilm Lilmalayin, the oldest and largest 
   privately-owned publishing house in the Middle East released the 
   first-ever Arabic-language edition.

   In many respects, Final Judgment is more than a book about the JFK 
   assassination. It also reveals the hidden global power politics of 
   the last half of the 20th century. Final Judgment documents that in 
   1963 JFK was embroiled in a bitter secret conflict with Israeli 
   leader David Ben-Gurion over Israel's drive to build the atomic 
   bomb; that Ben-Gurion resigned in disgust, saying that because of 
   JFK's policies, Israel's "existence [was] in danger." Then upon 
   JFK's assassination, U.S. policy toward Israel began an immediate 
   180-degree turnaround. Israeli historian Avner Cohen's new book, 
   Israel and the Bomb, confirms the conflict between JFK and Israel 
   so powerfully that, Israel's Ha'aretz, declared Cohen's revelations 
   would "necessitate the rewriting of Israel's entire history." In 
   any case, Cohen pointed out, "the transition from Kennedy to 
   [Lyndon] Johnson . . . benefited the Israeli nuclear program." 
   Ethan Bronner, in the New York Times, called Israel's drive to 
   build a nuclear bomb "a fiercely hidden subject." This explains why 
   JFK researchers never considered an Israeli connection until Final 
   Judgment supplied the missing pieces, assembling "the secret 
   picture on the other side of the jigsaw puzzle." While all of this 
   presents a strong motive for Israel to strike against JFK, Final 
   Judgment also documents what Israeli journalist Barry Chamish says 
   is "a pretty cogent case" for Mossad collaboration with the CIA in 
   the assassination conspiracy. 

   The fact is that when New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison 
   prosecuted trade executive Clay Shaw with conspiracy in the 
   assassination, Garrison had stumbled upon the Mossad link. Although 
   (after his acquittal) Shaw was revealed to have been a CIA asset, 
   in 1963 Shaw served on the board of a Rome-based company, 
   Permindex, which was actually a front for a Mossad-sponsored arms 
   procurement operation.  A primary shareholder in Permindex, the 
   Banque De Credit Internationale of Geneva, was not only the fiefdom 
   of Tibor Rosenbaum, a high-level Mossad official, but also the 
   chief money laundry for Meyer Lansky, "chairman" of the crime 
   syndicate and long-time Israeli loyalist. Chief executive of 
   Permindex was Louis Bloomfield of Montreal, a top figure in the 
   Israeli lobby and an operative of the Bronfman family, intimate 
   Lansky associates and leading patrons of Israel. Permindex was 
   clearly the Israeli link to the JFK assassination, so much so that 
   Jim Garrison himself later circulated the manuscript for a 
   never-published novel in which he fingered the Mossad as prime 
   mover behind the conspiracy although Garrison never otherwise 
   mentioned a Mossad connection publicly.

( Sorry folks, sofar i haven't been able to find a wikipedia page about 
  Permindex. Just feed "Permindex" into your favourate web search engine.
  Maybe start with reading the lobster article from 1983 [3].
  As of Feb 23, 2008 there finally has been created a wikipage on Permindex.
  More details about Permindex can be found inside "The Origins of PERMINDEX" [4]
  quoting from "A Farewell to Justice" [5]. ) 

   You may ask why Hollywood's so-called "radical film-maker" Oliver 
   Stone, whose film JFK was a virtual tribute to Garrison never 
   mentioned any of this. I would contend that Stone failed to mention 
   these details in JFK because the film was financed by Arnon 
   Milchan, an Israeli arms dealer linked to smuggling of materiel to 
   Israel's nuclear program-the very point of contention between JFK 
   and Israel. Milchan's role in the production of JFK is no secret, 
   by the way. He is listed in the credits as "executive producer," 
   which, in Hollywood parlance, means that he was the "money man," so 
   to speak, behind the film."

[1] "Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy"
by Michael Collins Piper

Paperback: 768 pages
Publisher: American Free Press. (2nd printing/sixth edition (2005)
Language: English
ISBN: 0974548405
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974548405/104-4523770-2822321 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0935036539/104-4391506-4678338

[2] "Mossad and the JFK Assassination"
by Michael Collins Piper
, Feral News
http://feralnews.com/issues/jfk/piper/piper.html
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/government7.htm

[3] "Permindex: The International Trade in Disinformation"
reprinted by Steve Dorril

Lobster: the journal of parapolitics, intelligence and State Research, #3, 1983.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/lobster.htm (**) Inside the Lobster article the following is mentioned :


   But the biscuit is taken by the US Labour Party who seem to have 
   survived the last decade peddling absolute garbage about Permindex 
   -- the conspiracy not only including the Kennedy assassination, but 
   also the domination of the West by the British! -- supplemented by 
   a disgusting dose of anti-Semitism.{14}

   {14} "Betrayal: A Reconstruction of Certain Clandestine Events From 
        the Bay of Pigs to the Assassination of JFK" (Chicago, 1976). The 
        Torbitt Memorandum: Nomenclature of An Assassination Cabal 
        (privately printed in US circa 1970). Apparently the work of now 
        dead lawyer David Copeland. One can only hope he wrote legal briefs 
        better than he wrote this. USLP: Dope, Inc. Jeffrey Steinberg and 
        David Coleman (NY 1981).
Well what can i say. Steve Dorril "reprints" a old Lobster article from the 1980's on the Internet on Jan 6, 2007, to reaffirm annecdotes of evil anti-Semitism cases. Again, the person in question, lawyer David Copeland, is dead. And thats how this "empire" works : first protect the truth with a kazillion bodyguard of lies, and at the same time silently remove the possible whistleblowers. The Saddam Hussein death sentence can be categorized likewise, remove the evidence before it hits you.

[4] "The Origins of PERMINDEX"
Posted by ce 399
on 21 April 2008 at 17:47 in Assassinations, Fascism
ce399 | research archive
http://ce399.typepad.com/weblog/2008/04/the-origins-of.html

[5] "A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK's Assassination, and the Case that Should Have Changed History"
by Joan Mellen
, Pgs. 136-140.
Hardcover: 608 pages
Publisher: Potomac Books Inc. (November 15, 2005)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1574889737
ISBN-13: 978-1574889734
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1574889737
http://www.joanmellen.net/
http://takingaimradio.com/shows/audio.html#051011

[6] "The murder of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy"
researched by Dr. Neville Thomas Jones, Ph.D.

www.RealityReviewed.com, Oct 11, 2008
http://www.realityreviewed.com/JFK murder.htm
http://crashrecovery.org/911/JFK-murder.htm



DIEBOLD bringing you a US President endorsed by the Military Industrial Complex





















The New Hampshire Vote Fraud


DISCLAIMER

The supposed "New Hampshire Primary Vote Fraud" of Jan 08, 2008, is very real to many people. Still I'm of the opinion that the Bev Harris-es and many other Vote Fraud experts this time have spinned the election result into a giant vote fraud media Gig, launched this time by alternative Internet media itself.

Why I come to this conclusion? I have been listening to alternative Internet radio since 2003 when the Iraq war was launched. And although a lot they claim holds truth after some reading in published books, I sense that this time the power of alternative media has probably been abused to spin the outcome of the "New Hampshire Primary".

Why would candidates like Kucinich and Ron Paul _NOT_ have finished at fifth place? Don't give yourself the illusion that listening to alternative radio will create a majority elect for Ron Paul within the Grand American Electorate public. Never forget that Ron Paul formally declared his candidacy for the Republican Ticket only on March 12, 2007. Ron Paul only popped up at the radar screen of alternative media in November of 2007. In main stream media Ron Paul only pops up for a couple of scarse seconds. On the other hand the McCain's and Clinton's are well known for many years now, even overseas.

If one would hold a poll with the general public asking if they knew who Ron Paul was, and whether he was running for the US Presidency of 2008, I don't think many people would know. Knowing this and knowing what i _heard_ in the 1st hour of the Jan 08, 2008 show of "The Midnight Rider" by RBN, the massive echoing the next day by the alternative media that massive DIEBOLD vote fraud was at hand, gives me the impression that for the 1st time massive spinning of truth by certain alternative media outlets is at hand.

And why would this not be the case? Some have said that WWIII is actually a Infowar. And as in all wars, the money masters, will then finance both sides. So why would the covertly financed part of alternative media, after gaining a large audience, not start spinning truth to persue a desired outcome?

Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:57:28 +0100 (CET)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, 
     too@slingshot.co.nz, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, 
     palast@gregpalast.com, tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, 
     henry@savethemales.ca, leurenmoret@yahoo.com, 
     prophecy@texemarrs.com, smith@iamthewitness.com, 
     eric@iamthewitness.com, captainmay@prodigy.net, 
     tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, 
     articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il, 
     michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com, crescentandcross@gmail.com, 
     tips@infowars.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com, 
     eric@vaticanassassins.org, email@spirituallysmart.com, 
     deadlinelive@yahoo.com, alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com, 
     Tillawi@currentissues.tv
Subject: The New Hampshire Vote Fraud
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Hi,

Shortly after the supposed Vote Fraud during the New Hampshire Primary, 
FOX news launched a question how it could be that Ron Paul got so many 
supporters from the 911 for truth movements. "Did Congress man Ron Paul 
recently change his view on the 911 attacks?" Ron Paul denied flat that 
911 was a inside job. FOX news really out-FOX-ed the alternative media 
by asking this. I myself also started wondering. How can this be?

Here's my take on Ron Paul. EVERYBODY KNOWS 911 was a planned job to 
get the Patriot Act passed, and ignite a boom in surveillance 
technology, adding a new economic branch into the Military Industrial 
Complex. Elaborating on WHO exactly did 911 is without a official 
INDEPENDENT authoritative study not a wise thing todo during an ongoing 
election campaign. I guess Ron Paul supporters who know all about 911 
are forced to give Ron Paul the advantage/benefit of the doubt, and 
pass over $20 million into the Ron Paul Campaign coffers.

But here's where my doubt starts. Is Ron Paul really the guy who is 
going to cleanup The Washington D.C. Beltway? I personally fear not. 
Here's why. It might be a dead cow, but never elect a US President from 
Texas. We have Dwight Eisenhower, who shortly after WWII allowed 
German people die of starvation [2][3]. Then there's Lyndon Johnson, who sure 
was into the deal to have his former boss JFK get shot. And then we 
have the Bushes. A lot of trouble has been invented, organized and 
implemented from TX. Like the Ross Perot Campaign the Ron Paul Campaign 
does have it odd quirks. We just discussed the 911 issue but there's 
more. Ron Paul DID co-publish this book "The Case for Gold" with 
hard-core neo-con and PNAC co-founder Lewis Lehrman. Today that should 
be reasons enough for doubt, but why has the same book recently been 
re-published through the Ludwig von Mises Institute? Here's the URL to 
that re-published book :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000XG8T40/002-9144665-7648836

Then we have the New Hampshire Vote fraud, where both Kucinich and Ron 
Paul seem to have lost votes. The mainstream media of course will tell 
you that's bull. And it certainly cannot be denied that the New 
Hampshire Primary could have been spinned into a Vote Fraud by, this 
time, the alternative Internet media. An alternative 911 for truth media 
which has its headquarters in .. TX. So how does one detect if a SPIN of 
the real story is at hand? One harvests articles, video and radio 
reports published during the New Hampshire Primary election night.
Here's a small story :

The alternative media _might_ SPIN the New Hampshire Primary drama for 
Ron Paul as a massive vote fraud, but there's more at hand :

http://crashrecovery.org/911/Chambers_010908-RonPaul-Campaign-is-a-fraud.mp3

Rob Bishop, a highly active grass roots campaigner to get Ron Paul on 
the GOP ballot, and RBN radio host on Sunday night, had something else 
to comment and called in at the Midnight Rider show by Mike Chambers 
from 11:00 pm - 1:00 am on the night of the election.

Basicly he claims that the Ron Paul campaign might have raised over 
$20 million but they only spend a couple of 100,000 dollars for the 
New Hampshire Primary. Rudy Giuliani on the other hand, who raised 
almost no money during his election campaign, comes out in New 
Hampshire and spends over $12 million to at least secure his place on 
the ticket.

Also, in the first hour, Chambers and Bishop [1] concluded that 
according their first examinations no vote fraud was at hand, because 
the vote results from the paper ballot precincts were in total 
agreement with the "Diebold" precincts.

Regards,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

[1] The Midnight Rider
by Mike Chambers
, Tuesday Jan 8, 2008, 11:00 pm - 1:00 am
"Guests: Walter Reddy -- Jim Condit -- and Rob Bishop
Topic: Dissecting the primary results."
http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambers/08/01/Chambers_010808_230000.MP3
http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambers/08/01/Chambers_010808_000000.MP3

[2] Eisenhower was a Jew
http://judicial-inc.biz/Hopie_ike.htm (Original page)
http://crashrecovery.org/911/Hopie_ike.htm (Archived copy)
http://crashrecovery.org/911/Hopie_ike_Suspended.htm(Archived copy of the "Suspended Hopie page" at home.att.net )

[3] Eisenhower's Death Camps, The last dirty secret of World War Two
by James Bacque, pages 31,38
Saturday Night Magazine, September 1989 Issue
http://crashrecovery.org/911/Saturday-Night-September-1989.pdf


Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:14:26 +0100 (CET)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: No_Surrender_2006@hotmail.com, stewwebb@sierranv.net, 
     stefangrossmann@t-online.de, too@slingshot.co.nz, 
     wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, palast@gregpalast.com, 
     tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, henry@savethemales.ca, 
     leurenmoret@yahoo.com, prophecy@texemarrs.com, 
     smith@iamthewitness.com, eric@iamthewitness.com, 
     captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net, 
     takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, 
     articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il, 
     michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com, crescentandcross@gmail.com, 
     tips@infowars.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com, lennybloom@gmail.com, 
     eric@vaticanassassins.org, email@spirituallysmart.com, 
     deadlinelive@yahoo.com, alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com, 
     Tillawi@currentissues.tv
Subject: Re: Ron Paul campaign is a fraud ?
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:

> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:07:40 +0100 (CET)
> From: Robert M. Stockmann 
> To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, too@slingshot.co.nz,
>      wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, palast@gregpalast.com,
>      tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, henry@savethemales.ca,
>      leurenmoret@yahoo.com, prophecy@texemarrs.com, smith@iamthewitness.com,
>      eric@iamthewitness.com, captainmay@prodigy.net, tarpley@tarpley.net,
>      takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, articles@davidicke.com,
>      chamish@netvision.net.il, michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com,
>      crescentandcross@gmail.com, tips@infowars.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com,
>      lennybloom@gmail.com, eric@vaticanassassins.org,
>      email@spirituallysmart.com, deadlinelive@yahoo.com,
>      alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com, Tillawi@currentissues.tv
> Subject: Ron Paul campaign is a fraud ?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All right folks, the alternative media _might_ SPIN the New Hampshire 
> Primary drama for Ron Paul as a massive vote fraud, but there's more 
> at hand.
> 
> Rob Bishop, a highly active grass roots campaigner to get Ron Paul on 
> the GOP ballot, and RBN radio host on Sunday night, had something else 
> to comment and called in at the Midnight Rider show by Mike Chambers 
> from 11:00 pm - 1:00 am on the night of the election.
> 
> Basicly he claims that the Ron Paul campaign might have raised over 
> $20 million but they only spend a couple of 100,000 dollars for the 
> New Hampshire Primary. Rudy Giuliani on the other hand, who raised 
> almost no money during his election campaign, comes out in New 
> Hampshire and spends over $12 million to at least secure his place on 
> the ticket.
> 
> Also, in the first hour, Chambers and Bishop [1] concluded that 
> according their first examinations no vote fraud was at hand, because 
> the vote results from the paper ballot precincts were in total 
> agreement with the "Diebold" precincts.

Although i really had the impression that Chambers and Bishop were 
telling in the _first_ hour that they could not identify a clear vote 
fraud, on his Sunday night radio show of Sunday Jan 13, 2008, Rob 
Bishop assured me and his listeners that the paper ballot precincts 
showed clear vote results for both Obama and Ron Paul, where the 
"Diebold" precincts sometimes showed zero votes for these two 
candidates.

If thats the case, then we do have a clear vote fraud at hand and I'm 
hereby dropping my allegations. As Rob Bishop said, how can it be that in 
New Hampshire two war mongering candidates from both sides of the isle, 
Rodham Clinton and McCain, are the elect winners??  Thats a good 
question, as it sure smells like a New Hampshire Primary sponsored by 
the Military Industrial Complex.

> [1] The Midnight Rider
>    by Mike Chambers, Tuesday Jan 8, 2008, 11:00 pm - 1:00 am
>    "Guests: Walter Reddy -- Jim Condit -- and Rob Bishop
>     Topic: Dissecting the primary results."
>  http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambers/08/01/Chambers_010808_230000.MP3
>  http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambers/08/01/Chambers_010808_000000.MP3

If RBN can make the mp3 file of the first hour, Chambers_010808_230000.MP3,
available we can listen again. Thanks for taking my call though to get this
vote fraud controversy out of the way.

Regards,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net


Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III, by Peter Hounam Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III, by Peter Hounam















The USS Liberty attack : OPERATION CYANIDE


On Tuesday, Jun 12, 2007 (Piper_061207_200000.MP3), Michael Collins Piper mentioned that a key source into the USS Liberty attack, decorated Navy veteran Richard Stanford Thompson, had died on June 10th in a tragic car accident on his way home from the 2007 USS Liberty Memorial Speech event at Arlington National Cemetery in Washington D.C. Mark Glenn reports about the event where he amongst others talked with Gary Brummett, President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association.

Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:09:13 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, 
     too@slingshot.co.nz,  wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, 
     palast@gregpalast.com, tom@tomflocco.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, 
     henry@savethemales.ca, prophecy@texemarrs.com, 
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Hi,

As Daryl Bradford Smith seems to have severe problems with
how certain essential details of the USS Liberty attack 
remain underreported, its time to set straighten the record(s) :

Apparently what Mark Glenn fails to mention about the attack on the USS 
Liberty was that the ship was heading to an area where the IDF was 
executing Egyptian POW's wholesale, and even had to dig their own 
graves first. But as even now ex-CIA Ray McGovern wrote in CounterPunch :

"New Revelations About the Attack on the USS Liberty
 So Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?
 By RAY McGOVERN, Weekend Edition, October 6 / 7, 2007
 http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern10062007.html

  "Why the Israelis decided to take the draconian measure of sinking a 
   ship of the U.S. Navy is open to speculation. One view is that the 
   Israelis did not want the U.S. to find out they were massing troops 
   to seize the Golan Heights from Syria, and wanted to deprive the 
   U.S. of the opportunity to argue against such a move. Another 
   theory: James Bamford, in "Body of Secrets," adduces evidence, 
   including reporting from an Israeli journalist eyewitness and an 
   Israeli military historian, of wholesale killing of Egyptian 
   prisoners of war at the coastal town of El Arish in the Sinai. The 
   Liberty was patrolling directly opposite El Arish in international 
   waters but within easy range to pick up intelligence on what was 
   going on there. And the Israelis were well aware."

which BTW is also reported on :

"So Who's Afraid of the Israel Lobby?"
 Counterpunch, Sunday October 07, 2007
 by RAY McGOVERN
 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/071007Lobby.htm

The argument of neglecting the Egyptian POW massacre is simply void, as 
today, any loyal listener and reader of the Alex Jones websites is well 
informed about this issue. Remains the discussion of Michael Collins 
Piper, who even went a level further in explaining the USS Liberty 
attack, mentioning a Naval secret service Intelligence officer by the 
name of Richard Thompson, an insiders insider on the USS Liberty 
and the planned plot behind it.

According Piper, Richard Thompson knew that the attack on the USS Liberty
had been planned in advance as a covert joint operation between
US Naval intelligence and obviously Israeli secret Intelligence, a.k.a.
the Mossad. This highly covert operation, known as OPERATION CYANIDE,
then, could already have ignited World War III inside the Middle East
back in 1967 .....   :

"Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly
 Caused World War III "
 by Peter Hounam
 Hardcover: 304 pages
 Publisher: Vision; New Ed edition (September 28, 2003)
 Language: English
 ISBN-10: 1904132197
 ISBN-13: 978-1904132196
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904132197/002-8427762-9701614

  "This hard-hitting investigation shows that on that day in 1967, 
   the world came closer to all-out nuclear war than ever before -- 
   this incident made the Cuban Missile Crisis seem tame by 
   comparison. Peter Hounam reveals that the attack was part of a 
   clandestine plan between the US and Israel known as "Operation 
   Cyanide," designed to ensure victory for Israel in the Middle East. 
   By blaming the attack on the Arab world, retaliation on a grand 
   scale would be justified."

As the Egyptian POW witness argument is now commonly known in 
mainstream conspiracy circles, it now seems that the work of Peter 
Hounam and Richard Thompson, who knew insider's insider details about 
OPERATION CYANIDE, remains underreported. Well at least Ray McGovern 
fails to mention OPERATION CYANIDE inside his counterpunch article...

Not really something to worry about IMHO, as Daryl Bradford Smith would 
now send Ray McGovern instead of Mark Glenn and Piper to the electronic 
guillotines inside the Internet forums. But sometimes people should 
understand that Naval Intelligence is _supposed_ to know nothing about 
CIA operations, and visa versa.

It's interesting to mention that during the French Revolution many
people were sent to real guillotines based on sort alike evidence
Daryl Bradford Smith is basing his decisions on. I think these kind
of schizophrenic and delusional convictions should stop. Luckily sofar
they have only been electronic executions.

Cheers,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

[1] USS Liberty Veterans Association Announces War Crime Report Filed Against Israel
by Gary Brummett, President, USS Liberty Veterans Association
,
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, June 7, 2005
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0607-24.htm
http://www.gtr5.com/Reports.htm
http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/ncoi.pdf



WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway


Steel Column inside WFC3 Building (American Express) Plan of the WTC/WFC Area




















People should realize that American Airlines Flight 11 (AAF 11) was the first airplane to strike and hit WTC1 (The North Tower) at 8:46:30 a.m. The second airplane strike was United Airlines Flight 175 (UAF 175) and hit WTC2 (The South Tower) at 9:02:59 a.m. The debris discussed here below is the 270 Ton steel beam which flew into the WFC3 building (American Express, AMEX).

It's important to realize that both Dr. Grossmann and me are of the opinion that the 270 Ton steel beam could only have been descended from WTC1 (The North Tower) as part of a additional explosion _AFTER_ 8:46:30 a.m., as just before the second airplane strike no damage to WFC3 and the Winter Garden glass pavilion was reported.

This leaves the discussion whether a delayed gasoline explosion or additional TNT shape charges resulted in the damage to WFC3. There is however no footage or reporting of a delayed Gasoline explosion from WTC1 (The North Tower) later-on during the attack. There is only the collapse of WTC1 (The North Tower), where presumably only gravity was the acting force.

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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, StefanGrossmann@t-online.de wrote:

> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:17:30 +0200
> From: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
> To: Robert M. Stockmann 
> Subject: WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
> 
> My latest is a detail of WTC explosion analysis, hidden away in a 
> members archive, see: 
>
> "What Fired A 270 Ton Beam Sideways: Key Finding At the WTC" [1]
>
> This is some of the strongest physical evidence around, not least due 
> to the government/FEMA source of the documentation. 

Hi Stefan,

Very interesting! Here's some extra math and physics, with my emphasis 
added, which will elucidate things further :

The object which flew from WTC1 to WFC3 [6] was a steel column 

structure of weight 270 metric tons, i.e.  m = 270,000 kilograms. 
The horizontal distance of the trajectory, x = 160 meters.
The vertical   distance of the trajectory, z = 290 meters.

I assume the column departed at the height where the airplane hit the 
north tower, which is roughly 350 meters. The height of impact on the 
WFC3 building (American Express) was at 60 meters [2]. So z = 290 
meters. If the column departed at a lower height, the results below 
would even be more convincing, and damning for the 911 commission.

Vertical component of the moving object :

  z = 0.5*g*t^2, with g=9.8 m/(s^2) we get :  t=7.68 seconds

Horizontal part of the moving object :

  x = v*t , we get that v= (160/7.68) = 20.83 m/s.

The Kinetic energy of the Horizontal part of the Trajectory :

 E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 0.5*270,000*20.83*20.83 = 58575001.5 Joule = 58 MJoules.

If this energy was to be supplied by detonation of TNT explosvives,
we would according [4]:

  "A ton of TNT releases about 4.2×10^9 joules upon explosion"

We would be needing a charge with equivalent of 58x10^6/4.2x10^6 = 58/4.2
 = 13.9 kilograms of TNT explosives. Hmmm any nutcase could carry that
upwards in a elevator.....

Could the Kinetic energy of the Horzontal part of the Trajectory have 
been supplied by the weight of the WTC1 building? A key issue is the 
force needed to do that and the total time of applying that force.

The total Impuls needed is

P_horizontal = m.v = 270x10^3*20.83 = 5.624x10^6 kg.m/s

If we apply the time of a typical detonation, 1 usec [5], as the total time
upon which a horzontal force is applied, we get :

F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^3*20.83/1x10^-6 = 5,624x10^9 kg.m/s^2 
                                                = 5,624x10^9 N

As many people have witnessed and tesfified of hearing secondary 
explosions, (watch Loose Change 2nd ed.) the event which pushed the 
steel column sidewards over a distance of 160 meters should also have 
been in the microseconds. Lets assume the total weight of the WTC1 
building allowed the steel column to snap, and in a usecond allow it to 
fly away. Through the total weight of the construction with its gravity 
g = 9.8 m/s^2 would apply for a sideway force of

F_horizontal = m.g

The mass needed todo that is m = F_horizontal/g = 574x10^9 kg, which
is 574x10^6 tons. However the total weight of the WTC1 building was
far less [3]:

  "Now lets add in reasonable guesstimates for plumbing fixtures 
   (5,000,000, kg), air conditioning (5,000,000 kg), electrical and 
   telecommunication wiring (5,000,000 kg) and we have an additional 
   15,000,000 kg of structural mass that civil engineers always 
   include as part of the dead load of a building. Thus combining all 
   these contributions, we arrive at a weight, or dead load, of 
   169,000,000 kg for one WTC Tower. Surprisingly this accounts for 
   only about 1/3rd of the oft-quoted 500,000,000 kg, so where is the 
   missing mass?"

so WTC1 is roughly 500,000,000 kg, i.e. 500x10^3 tons. If we apply a 
time of 1 msec, as the total time upon which a horzontal force is 
applied, we get :

F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^3*20.83/1x10^-3 = 5,624x10^6 kg.m/s^2 
                                                = 5,624x10^6 N

This then leads to a needed weight of 573,887,755 kg i.e. 574x10^3 
tons. And the calculation would fit according the total weight
of WTC1.

So do these steel column structures have characteristics which might 
have them snap (and not bend) in a time of a milli second due to the 
load of total weight of the building? I don't think so. The architects 
and contruction builders certainly won't have allowed that to happen.  

Moreover it is most unlikely that the total weight of a building is 
allowed to apply at the mounting points of a single steel column.

Acronyms :   WTC , World Trade Center
             WFC , World Finance Center

Best regards,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

[1] "9-11: What Fired 270 Tons Sideways?, A Key Finding at the WTC"
By: Dr. Stefan Grossmann
, 9-1-6
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/_Grossmann/270%20tons/9-11_What_Fired_270_Tons_Sideways.htm

[2] "Debris trajectories"
by Lumos
, posted on 18-2-2006 at 09:03 AM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread195645/pg1

[3] "What was the weight of a WTC Tower?"
by NEU-FONZE
, 4th January 2006 - 10:52 PM
http://forum.physorg.com/What-was-the-weight-of-a-WTC-Tower_4299.html

[4] "TNT equivalent"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent

[5] "Energetic nanomaterials: towards technological breakthrough"
by Bruno Lebret
, Military Applications Division,
CEA, Le Ripault Centre
CLEFS CEA - No. 52 - SUMMER 2005
http://www.cea.fr/gb/publications/Clefs52/pdf-gb/116-118p_gb52.pdf
http://crashrecovery.org/911/116-118p_gb52.pdf

[6] detailed plan of the WTC/WFC area,
taken from chap. 7 of [6a]
http://crashrecovery.org/911/wtc-map.jpg

[6a] "World Trade Center Building Performance Study"
by Therese McAllister
et.al.
Greenhome & O'Mara, Inc. (G&O), contract EMW-99-CO-0267
for Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration of FEMA
http://www.house.gov/science/hot/wtc/wtcreport.htm

[7] "Ignition of aviation kerosene at high temperatures"
by Anthony J. Dean, Oleg G. Penyazkov, Kirill L. Sevruk, Bala Varatharajan

http://www.galcit.caltech.edu/~jeshep/icders/cd-rom/EXTABS/87_20TH.PDF
http://crashrecovery.org/911/87_20TH.PDF

[8] "Energy Density of Aviation Fuel"
Edited by Glenn Elert, Evelyn Gofman
-- 2003
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/EvelynGofman.shtml

[9] "CHEMINFO: Jet A"
©2006 Canadian Centre for Occupational Health & Safety

http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/chemical/jetfuel/cie768.htm

[10] "Boeing: Commercial Airplanes - 757-200 Technical Characteristics"
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/pf/pf_200tech.html

9-11 WTC: CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL


As a followup on the above discussion on the 270 ton beam report, Stefan Grossmann was contacted by a spokesperson of FBI Division #5 which i here reproduce in detail :

                 www.cloakanddagger.de presents:

                            9-11 WTC:
              CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL
                 By: Dr. Stefan Grossmann, 9-13-6
                       www.gallerize.com

   What they hollered when they had arrested the alleged Saddam 
   Hussein: "We go'tem!" Same here: Over the years we have unearthed 
   watertight physical proof, based on information from the U.S. 
   government itself, that it was bombs. Will they next be yanking 
   Bush out of an earth hole in a remote part of Texas by a long-grown 
   Santa Claus beard? Will Bush whine: "Don't shoot me, Im the President 
   of the U.S.A.?"

   The Cloak recently reported that a 270 ton core beam from the WTC1 
   collapse, fired into nearby WFC3, was sure proof of pre-planted 
   explosives [1].
   This report has drawn heavy fire, but in the process the finding 
   has merely been confirmed. Here is the fine print:

   1. We correct our claim that the flying 270 object was from the 
   core column section at the center of the collapsing building 
   (WTC1). The U.S. government, in this respect credibly, has reported 
   that it was a three-story segment of the tower's outer wall. See 
   page 7-7 of the FEMA's WTC Building Performance Report, screenshot:

page 7-7 of the FEMAs WTC Building Performance Report

   The existing photographic material shows no scar of even close to 
   such size on the west wall of north tower after the impact of the 
   flying object at 8.46 a.m. on 9-11-1. The only other possible time 
   hence is the collapse time. The alleged kerosene of the alleged 
   airplane is thus not the cause why the 270 tons of steel were fired 
   across the highway -- the thrust went north and not west, and the 
   WTC1's west side prior to collapse does not show a missing 
   three-storey wall segment in all the pile of photographic evidence.

   2. Robert Stockmann in a brilliant mathematical and physical 
   analysis has shown that the gravitational pull of the building was 
   also not the cause for firing the 270 tons of steel across the 
   highway. With the given information above (not a core column but a 
   wall segment, not a static support of a major part of the tower's 
   weight) it is, in light of Robert Stockmanns findings, also to be 
   ruled out that gravitational pull fired the 270 ton steel wall
   segment across the highway.

   In other words, the discussion has shown that the only cause why 
   the 270 ton steel segment flew across the highway was some 
   explosive device, logically pre-planted, in accordance with what at 
   least over one hundred eye witnesses have said about explosions in 
   the WTC.

   Here is my e-mail correspondence with Robert Stockmann, published 
   with his kind permission:

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:07:00 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" StefanGrossmann@t-online.de
Subject: Re: WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, StefanGrossmann@t-online.de wrote:

> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:30:01 +0200
> From: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
> To: Robert M. Stockmann 
> Subject: Re: WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
> 
> Hi Robert:
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> 1. Can I publish your text, using your name as the author, as a "Comment"
> at the end of my article? It would be very helpful to do so.

Sure, no problem.

> 2. I find fault with the frequent argument: x tons of y explosive creates
> z amount of energy. A decisive factor not calculated in such equations is
> the vector component. Unless using a shaped charge or bomb shell, an
> explosion energy dissipates in a spherical shape. However, when
> considering the acceleration of an approximately point-shaped particle,
> only a fraction of the total explosion energy is transferred to the
> particle (here: the beam). Also, in an open space (not a closed bomb
> shell), the energy will be reflected off hard objects and bounce, thus
> additionally weakening the force. Also, the total weight of a building
> can only come to bear at the foot of the building, not at the top.

Well the argument i make is more the gauging of how much energy and shape
charges are needed. If 13.9 kg TNT can supply the boost for the 
horizontal part of the flight, doesn't mean that 100% of this 13.9kg
can be converted into the horizontal movement of the steel column.
Plant 3 or 4 of these 13.9 kg charges and you do the job.

Its more a gauging of what is reasonable and acceptable and what
definitely is not. The transfer of weight of the building in order to
snap that column is rather unlikely. The weight available is simply
not sufficient for the observed flight path.

> Example: Yesterday, an FBI division 5 submitter proposed, using foul
> language, this: The 270 ton beam was hurled into WFC 3 (Amex building)
> upon impact of a passenger plane in WTC1 (north tower) due to the
> explosion of 10,000 gallons of jet fuel. Weakness of this argument: The
> bulk of the explosion went to the north. (For south tower impact, it went
> east and south. The WFC3 is north-west, not in the direct line of fire.)
> (Further: jet fuel/kerosene burns with black smoke, here we are shown
> light gray plumes, a chemical argument against kerosene such as used for
> commercial passenger jets.)
> 
> Your example: Transfer of building's horizontal gravitational weight to a
> snapping column. The higher ranges of energy come only in the lower
> floors of the collapsing tower. However, for such scenarios, the vertical
> (fall-down) component of the trajectory gets much smaller (not z = 290
> but for example z = 50, or even: z = -20, etc.). How does that affect the
> picture?

Indeed. That argument makes the transfer of weight to horizontal movement
even more unlikely, because less mass is available.

> Could you make some of your brilliant mathematical and physical comments
> on the additional aspects mentioned above, including the kerosene
> explosion argument?

The kerosine explosion argument. 
--------------------------------

According [7] (Fig.2) we see that the detonation time of kerosine (Jet 
A Fuel) is between 10 to 20 micro seconds.

According [8] : "The energy density of aviation fuel is generally 
between 43 and 48 MJ/kg". 

We saw that we needed a total of 58 MJoules to create the trajectory. 
So we would need a canister with 1.355 kg Kerosine. According [9] we 
have "Relative Density (Specific Gravity): 0.755-0.840 at 15 deg C 
(water = 1) (24)" for Jet A Kerosine. The canister should then contain 
1.7 liter Jet A.

A Boeing 757 has a Fuel Capacity of 11489 gal (43490 l) [10], i.e. 43 
m^3, which amounts to a sphere with radius of 2.17 meters. The steel 
column of 270 tons is much larger, so if some of the Kerosine detonated 
behind the steel column, it could depart with the described trajectory.

So its possible. As the impact and explosion of the Kerosene from the 
Boeing happened mostly inside the WTC1 North Tower, its possible that a 
steel column was blasted with the observed trajectory

But, the Kerosene explosion was part of the impact of the Boeing 
hitting the WTC1 North Tower. I thought the argument here was about 
what could have caused the SECOND explosion..... If one can prove that 
the picture of the column inside the WFC3 (American Express) building 
was taken only seconds after the Boeing impact, then FBI Division 5 has 
a argument. If the steel column inside WFC3 only showed up much later, 
during the 2nd explosion, the Kerosine argument is void.

So find out at what time the 270 TON steel column hit WFC3. Send some 
reporter to interview people who were inside the WFC3 American Express 
building that morning. Keep it low profile.

Cheers,

Robert

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:47:50 +0200
> Subject: Re: WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
> From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
> To: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
> 
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, StefanGrossmann@t-online.de wrote:
> 
> > Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:17:30 +0200
> > From: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
> > To: Robert M. Stockmann 
> > Subject: WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
> >
> > My latest is a detail of WTC explosion analysis, hidden away in a
> > members archive, see:
> >
> > "What Fired A 270 Ton Beam Sideways: Key Finding At the WTC" [1]
> >
> > This is some of the strongest physical evidence around, not least due
> > to the government/FEMA source of the documentation.
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Very interesting! Here's some extra math and physics, with my emphasis
> added, which will elude things further :
> 
> The object which flew from WTC1 to WFC3 [6] was a steel column
> structure of weight 270 metric tons, i.e. m = 270,000 kilograms.
> The horizontal distance of the trajectory, x = 160 meters.
> The vertical distance of the trajectory, z = 290 meters.
> 
> I assume the column departed at the height where the airplane hit the
> north tower, which is roughly 350 meters. The height of impact on the
> WFC3 building (American Express) was at 60 meters [2]. So z = 290
> meters. If the column departed at a lower height, the results below
> would even be more convincing, and damning for the 911 commission.
> 
> Vertical component of the moving object :
> 
> z = 0.5*g*t^2, with g=9.8 m/(s^2) we get : t=7.68 seconds
> 
> Horizontal part of the moving object :
> 
> x = v*t , we get that v= (160/7.68) = 20.83 m/s.
> 
> The Kinetic energy of the Horizontal part of the Trajectory :
> 
> E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 0.5*270,000*20.83*20.83 = 58575001.5 Joule = 58 MJoules.
> 
> If this energy was to be supplied by detonation of TNT explosvives,
> we would according [4]:
> 
>  "A ton of TNT releases about 4.2×10^9 joules upon explosion"
> 
> We would be needing a charge with equivalent of 58x10^6/4.2x10^6 = 58/4.2
> = 13.9 kilograms of TNT explosives. Hmmm any nutcase could carry that
> upwards in a elevator.....
> 
> Could the Kinetic energy of the Horzontal part of the Trajectory have
> been supplied by the weight of the WTC1 building? A key issue is the
> force needed to do that and the total time of applying that force.
> 
> The total Impuls needed is
> 
> P_horizontal = m.v = 270x10^3*20.83 = 5.624x10^6 kg.m/s
> 
> If we apply the time of a typical detonation, 1 usec [5], as the total
> time
> upon which a horzontal force is applied, we get :
> 
> F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^3*20.83/1x10^-6 = 5,624x10^9 kg.m/s^2
> 						  = 5,624x10^9 N
> 
> As many people have witnessed and tesfified of hearing secondary
> explosions, (watch Loose Change 2nd ed.) the event which pushed the
> steel column sidewards over a distance of 160 meters should also have
> been in the microseconds. Lets assume the total weight of the WTC1
> building allowed the steel column to snap, and in a usecond allow it to
> fly away. Through the total weight of the construction with its gravity
> g = 9.8 m/s^2 would apply for a sideway force of
> 
> F_horizontal = m.g
> 
> The mass needed todo that is m = F_horizontal/g = 574x10^9 kg, which
> is 574x10^6 tons. However the total weight of the WTC1 building was
> far less [3]:
> 
>  "Now lets add in reasonable guesstimates for plumbing fixtures
>   (5,000,000, kg), air conditioning (5,000,000 kg), electrical and
>   telecommunication wiring (5,000,000 kg) and we have an additional
>   15,000,000 kg of structural mass that civil engineers always
>   include as part of the dead load of a building. Thus combining all
>   these contributions, we arrive at a weight, or dead load, of
>   169,000,000 kg for one WTC Tower. Surprisingly this accounts for
>   only about 1/3rd of the oft-quoted 500,000,000 kg, so where is the
>   missing mass?"
> 
> so WTC1 is roughly 500,000,000 kg, i.e. 500x10^3 tons. If we apply a
> time of 1 msec, as the total time upon which a horzontal force is
> applied, we get :
> 
> F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^3*20.83/1x10^-3 = 5,624x10^6 kg.m/s^2
> 						  = 5,624x10^6 N
> 
> This then leads to a needed weight of 573,887,755 kg i.e. 574x10^3
> tons. And the calculation would fit according the total weight
> of WTC1.
> 
> So do these steel column structures have characteristics which might
> have them snap (and not bend) in a time of a milli second due to the
> load of total weight of the building? I don't think so. The architects
> and contruction builders certainly won't have allowed that to happen.
> 
> Moreover it is most unlikely that the total weight of a building is
> allowed to apply at the mounting points of a single steel column.
> 
> Acronyms :  WTC , World Trade Center
> 	      WFC , World Finance Center
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Robert
> [1] "9-11: What Fired 270 Tons Sideways?, A Key Finding at the WTC"
>     By: Dr. Stefan Grossmann, 9-1-6
>     http://www.cloakanddagger.de/_Grossmann/270%20tons/
>     9-11_What_Fired_270_Tons_Sidways.htm
> [2] "Debris trajectories"
>     by Lumos, posted on 18-2-2006 at 09:03 AM
>     http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread195645/pg1
> [3] "What was the weight of a WTC Tower?"
>     by NEU-FONZE, 4th January 2006 - 10:52 PM
>     http://forum.physorg.com/What-was-the-weight-of-a-WTC-Tower_4299.html
> [4] "TNT equivalent"
>     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent
> [5] "Energetic nanomaterials: towards technological breakthrough"
>     by Bruno Lebret, Military Applications Division,
>     CEA, Le Ripault Centre
>     CLEFS CEA - No. 52 - SUMMER 2005
>     http://www.cea.fr/gb/publications/Clefs52/pdf-gb/116-118p_gb52.pdf
> [6] detailed plan of the WTC/WFC area, take from
>     "World Trade Center Building Performance Study"
>     http://www.house.gov/science/hot/wtc/wtc-report/WTC_ch7.pdf
>     http://crashrecovery.org/911/wtc-map.jpg
> --
> Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
> Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
> crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net
> 
> !DSPAM:45067e3629235625686105!
> 

-- 
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Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net


The whole glass Pavillion (Winter Garden) next to WFC3 was destroyed also

















REBUTTAL ARGUMENT: YES, 270 TONS AND MORE DID FLY SIDEWAYS


Someone sent Dr. Grossmann and me the following email :

Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:53:40 EST
From: Alburyt@aol.com
To: StefanGrossmann@t-online.de, stock@stokkie.net
Subject: re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
Parts/Attachments:
   1   OK     27 lines  Text
   2 Shown    41 lines  Text
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Dr. Grossmann:
Now that you've told us that the "270 ton beam" protruding from the Amex
Building in NYC after the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01 wasn't really from
the core of the North Tower, as you previously claimed, but was a
perimeter column tree, which anyone having even the slightest familiarity
with the framing of the towers would have known immediately, this might
be a good time to correct your far more flagrantly absurd claim that the
thing weighed 270 metric tons in the first place. Despite the obvious
mistake in the FEMA caption, it actually weighed about 2.7 metric tons,
based on the fact that it consisted of three 14" X 14" steel tubes with
1/4" walls, each of which was no more than 36' long, plus some
lightweight spandrels and a few miscellaneous brackets, and that steel
weighs about 490#/ cubic foot. No one could ever fully repair the
credibility of someone who claims, despite absolutely no evidence at all
to support it, that "a nuclear device, but not necessarily a Hiroshima
type atomic bomb" was a plausible explanation for the fact that debris
was expelled outward from the towers when they collapsed, but I hope this
helps.

                                                                BUD

I sent the following email reply to "BUD" and Dr. Grossmann :

Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:30:21 +0100 (CET)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: Alburyt@aol.com
cc: StefanGrossmann@t-online.de
Subject: re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 Alburyt@aol.com wrote:

> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:53:40 EST
> From: Alburyt@aol.com
> To: StefanGrossmann@t-online.de, stock@stokkie.net
> Subject: re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
> 
> Dr.  Grossmann:
> Now that you've _told_ 
> 
> (http://www.cloakanddagger.de/_Grossmann/270%20tons/Confusion_around_270_Ton_Detail.htm)
> us that the 
>
> "_270  ton beam_ 
> (http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photolibrary/photo_details.do?id=3942)
> 
> " protruding from the Amex Building in NYC after the terrorist attacks
> of 9/11/01 wasn't really from the core of the North Tower, as you
> previously claimed, but was a perimeter column tree, which anyone
> having even the slightest familiarity with the framing of the towers
> would have  known immediately, this might be a good time to correct
> your far more flagrantly absurd claim that the thing weighed 
> 270 metric tons in the first place. Despite the obvious mistake in 
> the FEMA caption, it actually weighed about 2.7 metric tons, based on the 
> fact that it consisted of three 14" X 14" steel tubes with  1/4" walls,

Dear BUD,

Please forward your analysis to FEMA, USATODAY, 911digitalarchive.org 
and any other organization who has archived this in error. That is if 
you are correct. A decent SUV vehicle also weights 2.7 tonnes. The 
calculations would then be off by a factor a hundred (100). According 

http://crashrecovery.org/911/#WTC270

The following would change in my calculations :

  "The Kinetic energy of the Horizontal part of the Trajectory :

    E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 0.5*270,000*20.83*20.83 = 58575001.5 Joule = 58 MJoules."

would then become :

  "The Kinetic energy of the Horizontal part of the Trajectory :

    E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 0.5*2700*20.83*20.83 = 585750.015 Joule = 0.58 MJoules."

The amount of needed TNT explosives would become 0.139 kilogram, or 139 
grams instead of 13.9 kg. This is not really unbelievable to have 
happened. Leaves us to re-analyze the rest of the calculations:

  "The total Impuls needed is

   P_horizontal = m.v = 270x10^3*20.83 = 5.624x10^6 kg.m/s"

would then become :

  "The total Impuls needed is

   P_horizontal = m.v = 270x10^1*20.83 = 5.624x10^4 kg.m/s"

next F_horizontal :

  "F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^3*20.83/1x10^-6 = 5,624x10^9 kg.m/s^2 
                                                   = 5,624x10^9 N"

would then become :

  "F_horizontal = m.dv/dt = 270x10^1*20.83/1x10^-6 = 5,624x10^7 kg.m/s^2 
                                                   = 5,624x10^7 N"

next the computed needed mass of the building to make it happen :

  "Through the total weight of the construction with its gravity 
   g = 9.8 m/s^2 would apply for a sideway force of

   F_horizontal = m.g

   The mass needed todo that is m = F_horizontal/g = 574x10^9 kg, which
   is 574x10^6 tons."

would then become :

  "Through the total weight of the construction with its gravity 
   g = 9.8 m/s^2 would apply for a sideway force of
   
   F_horizontal = m.g

   The mass needed todo that is m = F_horizontal/g = 574x10^7 kg, which
   is 574x10^4 tons."

However the WTC building is _STILL_ roughly 500,000,000 kg, i.e. 
500x10^3 tons. So there's still a discrepancy there of a factor 10. 
Your claim of reduced weight argument could be valid if the steel beam 
object would have had a weight of 0.27 metric tons, which is 270 kilogram.

> each of which was no more than 36' long, plus some lightweight
> spandrels and a few miscellaneous brackets, and that steel weighs 
> about 490#/cubic foot. No one could ever fully repair the credibility 
> of someone who claims, despite absolutely no evidence at all to support it,
> that "a nuclear device, but not necessarily a Hiroshima type atomic bomb"
> was a plausible  explanation for the fact that debris was expelled outward
> from the towers when  they collapsed, but I hope this helps.

We never claimed that nuclear devices were used, at least I didn't. I 
just calculated how many kilograms or grams of TNT shape charges are 
needed to have a 270 Ton steel beam expel outward the way as was 
photographed and archived by FEMA, USATODAY and others.

Yours Sincerely,

Robert M. Stockmann
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

Stefan Grossmann wrote a respons where he also added my comments above at http://www.gallerize.com/9-11/270_Ton_Rebuttal.htm. However for "BUD" there were still some unresolved issues, even today 7 years after the event.

Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:02:32 +0100 (CET)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: Alburyt@aol.com
cc: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
Subject: Re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, StefanGrossmann@t-online.de wrote:

> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:38:43 +0100
> From: "StefanGrossmann@t-online.de" 
> To: Alburyt@aol.com, stock@stokkie.net
> Subject: Re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
> 
> See my comments posted just now at
> http://www.gallerize.com/9-11/270_Ton_Rebuttal.htm

Dear BUD,

PREAMBLE :

   It takes a lot of time to whitewash a inside operation like 911.
   A well known proven method in removing collateral evidence is first 
   protect the truth with a kazillion bodyguard of lies, and at the 
   same time silently start removing/discrediting the possible 
   whistleblowers.

   It seems that, you, after all these years, for the first time see 
   opportunity fit to start a media campaign to finalize such a 
   strategy.

   Why didn't you file your complaints earlier? Don't take this 
   lightly, my friend, because 911 is not just a ordinary terrorist 
   attack.  Not only G.W. Bush, his neo-con adminstration and the 
   Zionist Lobby, but also You can expect a serious 'blowback' if your 
   efforts turn out to be part of such a whitewash campaign. 

   So besides reporting to FEMA and USATODAY about the 600,000# 
   caption, i advise you to add a solid argumentation why you didn't 
   pointed to it earlier.

Now lets return to the details. I have read Dr. Grossmann's comments
above and would like to add the following :

The impact of the first airplane, American Airlines Flight 11 (AAF 11),
a Boeing 767-200, was not as properly recorded on video as the second
airplane, United Airlines Flight 175 (UAF 175), also a Boeing 767-200. 

Many have seen the impact of the second airplane, a Boeing 767-200, on 
TV and video reports. What strikes me is that UAF 175 impacts like a 
knife into a butter cake, leaving only a slick slit displaying the 
profile of the plane, instead of knocking a huge hole into the South 
Tower. This evidently leads to the conclusion that the impact of the 
second plane (UAF 175), displays a gross discrepancy into expected and 
observed mechanics of impulse conservation.

The only sensible conclusion to this discrepancy in impulse conservation,
which I endorse, are exactly the words of Dr. Grossmann :

   "The depicted airplanes were detectable airplane models, not real"

About the Zionists being behind 9-11 and not the Arabs, i only state:
Who benefits from 9-11, and who has benefitted since 9-11? We have :

- Larry Silverstein

- The Neo-Con PNAC movement, who finally could wage war with Iraq,
  which is actually the dream come true of Israel and the Zionist
  movement.

- The Bush "Nazi" Administration who could finally roadmap their
  evil legislation, like the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act.

- The 9-11 attacks were filmed live by 'employees' i.e.
  Israeli operatives of a company called Urban Moving Systems which
  is a known Mossad front operation. And yes these guys were cheering
  as the Towers came down. see
  http://crashrecovery.org/911/20070424_86.html

You ask which factors could have prevented debris to fly outward over 
500 feet or further. Well now, if gravity was the only force available, 
after the steel columns had melted, not a single object could have 
flown into WFC3.

You mention the following :

  "eight months of on-site cleanup and inspection of debris by nearly 
   40,000 people, some of them experts in controlled demolition, 
   didn't produce even one column end that was melted or cut by an 
   explosive or incendiary device"

I point here again to my PREAMBLE, and would like to add that a lot of 
video footage shows proof that a "second explosion" (see e.g. the 
"Loose Change" video) was at hand which was also reported by many 
people in and around the WTC buildings.

Yours Sincerely,

Robert M. Stockmann
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net


> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:39:14 +0100
> Subject: re: "CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL"
> From: Alburyt@aol.com
> To: stock@stokkie.net
> 
> Hi Robert, 
>
> If you have any doubts about whether Dr. Grossmann made
> the claim that nuclear devices were used to trigger the tower collapses,
> I suggest you read the document which prompted his correction regarding
> the origin of the flying object in question, and some of the links within
> it. He not only states that "The twin towers were bombed (nuked) through
> pre-planted devices," and "the towers fell through nuclear devices (not
> Hiroshima type bombs, but smaller devices with easier detonation
> mechanisms)," but also offers alleged elevated levels of tritium as
> proof. He also claims that American Airlines Flight 11 and United
> Airlines Flight 175 were just model airplanes inserted into news videos,
> that there were "only low smoldering fires of no structural significance"
> inside the towers prior to their collapses*, that Zionists, not Islamic
> terrorists, were the planners and perpetrators of the attacks we suffered
> on 9/11, and that the ANFO bomb used by Timothy McVeigh to blow up the
> Murrah Building in Oklahoma City and murder 168 innocent people was
> really a nuclear device similar to the ones he thinks were used in the
> WTC towers. If you want your name and reputation linked to this sort of
> thing, that's your prerogative.
> However, if you're still unconvinced that the calculations you've
> presented were based on a value for mass which was off by a factor of
> 100, please refer to http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch2.pdf and
> http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1CollapseofTowers.pdf , as well as this
> picture of a column tree with a partial landing gear embedded, which,
> like the one in the FEMA photo of WFC 3, was also from WTC 1, according
> to the NYPD, and was obviously from the plane impact area of that tower.
> The perimeter columns at that height in the building were 14" square with
> only 1/4" walls, giving them a weight of ~45.77#/lineal foot, and three
> of them at a maximum length of 36' would only weigh about 4,945#. Three
> spandrels, each measuring 4.33' X ~7" X 1/4" (safe guesstimate) thickness
> add an additional 890# or so to the assembly, and if you throw in another
> (generous) 165# for the structural angle brackets, etc. seen in the
> photos, the total weight is right around 6,000#, or a little less than
> the decent SUV you mentioned, but consistent with my suggestion that a
> FEMA employee, who didn't necessarily have a technical background, was a
> little careless when he wrote "600,000" in the caption, and no one caught
> it.
> There was no need to go through all of your calculations again just to
> remove two zeroes from the results after correcting for the real mass of
> this "beam," and considering the ~144 million pounds that the part of the
> tower above the 94th floor in WTC 1 weighed, along with the relatively
> insignificant weight of individual articles of debris ejected from the
> building when it fell (regardless of anyone's theory as to what caused it
> to fall) on the rest of the lower structure from at least one story and
> probably two or more, I think your time would also have been much better
> spent calculating and explaining what possible factors you think could
> have prevented objects from scattering 500 or more feet outward from that
> height, instead of what could have caused this rather easily-explained
> phenomenon.
> All 9/11 explosives hypotheses make the unwarranted assumption that
> 300,000# Boeing 767s going 500 mph and carrying at least 10,000 gallons
> of jet fuel, plus fires which reached 1100 C, weren't enough by
> themselves to trigger the collapses, so these devices presumably had to
> have been placed on columns in the impact area, and where they could have
> almost simultaneously severed enough additional columns to trigger the
> progressive collapses we witnessed on 9/11. Since there was no visible,
> audible or seismic evidence of explosives being detonated just prior to
> any building collapse that day, and more than eight months of on-site
> cleanup and inspection of debris by nearly 40,000 people, some of them
> experts in controlled demolition, didn't produce even one column end that
> was melted or cut by an explosive or incendiary device, I find this
> scenario extremely unlikely, and the nearly impossible task of secretly
> planting all of these charges right up against steel columns in busy,
> occupied office buildings just makes it even less probable.
> You're certainly entitled to your opinion on this, of course, but I hope
> I've at least disabused you of the notion that 270 [metric] ton objects
> were going sideways through the air for hundreds of feet on 9/11, and
> since the offending caption hasn't been corrected on the FEMA web site, I
> am going to take your suggestion and contact them about it.
> *Btw, here are some pictures of those "low, smoldering fires":
> http://www.debunking911.com/genfires.htm
> http://www.debunking911.com/east5.jpg
> http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/WTC_on_fire9.jpg
> One even shows the slow, gradual inward bowing of the perimeter columns
> for a half hour or more before collapse, hardly a sign of the effects of
> a nuclear device or TNT.




Barry Jennings interviewed at MIKE'S PAPAYA on Sept 11, 2001 after surviving attempted assassination inside WTC7
















Barry Jennings interviewed at MIKE'S PAPAYA


On September 16, 2008 Infowars.com reported that a "Key Witness to WTC 7 Explosions [was found] Dead at [age] 53".

Barry Jennings had not only died under suspicious circumstances, but the exact date of his death was also unknown. "Emergency coordinator and 9/11 witness Barry Jennings has passed away with controversy about WTC7 still hot as the BBC hit piece and NIST report have been released to counter Jennings exclusive testimony of explosions inside Building 7". Reasons enough to clarify and to dig up Barry Jennings testimony which was recorded somewhere in August of 2007 by the makers of the "Loose Change" DVD on 911. To authenticate Barry's testimony as recorded by "Loose Change" i also present the raw footage of Barry Jennings as he was interviewed at MIKE'S PAPAYA by ABC7 early in the afternoon of Sept 11, 2001 after surviving an attempted assassination inside WTC7. Sofar i have not been able to find any discrepancies between this early footage and his Video testimony to Loose Change, which he ended with "Yes You Can Use This Footage". In addition a highly interesting picture emerges around the Collapse of World Trade Center building number 7 (WTC7).

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:21:51 +0200 (CEST)
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To: stewwebb@sierranv.net, stefangrossmann@t-online.de, 
     too@slingshot.co.nz, timrifat@rvscience.com, 
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Hi,

As Barry Jennings has passed away, the following footage
might become important. The individual .flv and .mpg files
are also on this PAL DVD :

                Barry Jennings interviewed
                       at MIKE'S PAPAYA
               88 Reade St. New York, NY 10013
    http://tracker.conspiracycentral.net/torrents-details.php?id=1887
 

 Original footage shot on September 11, 2001 at MIKE'S PAPAYA
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 
 * Barry Jennings - 9/11 Early Afternoon ABC7 Interview.flv
 * Barry Jennings, 2nd half interview, WABC, 12:52, 9/11.flv
 
   ABC7 footage shot around 12:52 on Sep 11, 2001 when the 2nd
   tower, The North Tower (WTC1) had already collapsed.
 
 * WTC witnesses, BBC Newsnight, 9/11/2001.flv
 
   BBC Newsnight borrowed the same footage from ABC7.
   and shows part of it. The quality of the BBC clip is the best
   of the three videos.
 
 
 Look how this all black SUV (blackops?) is slowing down as it drives
 into the camera shot. Which street corner is this?  Jennings feels that
 trouble is arriving and instinctively pulls his friend from the black
 SUV away and face into the camera. It turns out that all three videos
 use the same footage shot by ABC 7 at the crossing of Reade St. and
 Church St..  The second half interview by WABC ends with a shot at
 MIKE'S PAPAYA, 88 Reade St. New York, NY 10013.
 
 Put the DVD at fullscreen, and play it at half speed with sound off.
 One can recognize at least a dozen of faces who were present on that
 corner in the early afternoon.
 

 Footage of Barry Jennings shot around August 2007
 --------------------------------------------------
 
 The following interview was conducted by the Loose Change team
 somewhere in August 2007 :
 
 * Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 1 of 2.flv
 * Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 2 of 2.flv
 
 Barry Jennings, was on Sep 11, 2001 the then active Deputy
 Director, Emergency Services Department of the New York City Housing
 Authority. Barry mentions how a Mr. Hess, whilst trapped inside WTC7,
 during scary moments becomes his buddy Mike.
 
 This man is Michael D. Hess.
 
 Michael Hess served at the time inside Giuliani's Mayoral
 Administration as Corporation Counsel -- New York City's chief lawyer
 -- before joining the firm, Giuliani Partners Inc. in 2002. Today he
 serves as senior managing partner, overseeing the firm's day-to-day
 operations. See also :
 
 http://www.giulianipartners.com/mhess.aspx
 (domainname first registered on 2001-12-20)
 
 Barry Jennings mentions that Mayor Giuliani had been in building 7,
 before he came in that morning. Michael D. Hess was supposed to have
 a meeting with Giuliani that morning. Barry Jennings was called to
 the 23rd floor of WTC7 as he got a message that a little Cesna
 airplane had flown into the North Tower (WTC1). On C-SPAN2 Giuliani is
 telling how building 7 had came down :
 
 * Giuliani Caught In Bizarre Building 7 Lie.flv
 
 As Jennings entered the 23rd floor he met with Michael Hess, the
 Corporation Counsel. They were the only two present. A couple
 minutes later explosions blew the 6th floor away under their feet
 as they were on their way downwards on the stairway. This certainly
 looks like a organized plot to get rid of these two guys, and of
 course many more highlevel officials like John P. O'Neill who
 was appointed as head of security at the World Trade Center a day
 before of the WTC attacks. John P. O'Neill was also present at
 WTC7 that day.
 
 
                 Barry Jennings interviewed
                       at MIKE's PAPAYA
               88 Reade St. New York, NY 10013
                     featuring :
 
  4579185 Sep 17 21:15 Barry Jennings - 9/11 Early Afternoon ABC7 Interview.flv
  3407441 Sep 17 21:15 Barry Jennings, 2nd half interview, WABC, 12:52, 9/11.flv
  1184781 Sep 17 21:18 WTC witnesses, BBC Newsnight, 9/11/2001.flv
 15249253 Sep 17 21:00 Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 1 of 2.flv
 11808847 Sep 17 21:03 Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 2 of 2.flv
  4468172 Sep 17 21:24 Giuliani Caught In Bizarre Building 7 Lie.flv
 
 47593472 Sep 18 00:17 Barry_Jennings-911_Early_Afternoon_ABC7_Interview.mpg
 48551936 Sep 18 00:24 Barry_Jennings,_2nd_half_interview,_WABC,_12:52,_911.mpg
 13432832 Sep 18 00:29 WTC_witnesses,_BBC_Newsnight,_9-11-2001.mpg
132468736 Sep 17 23:26 Barry_Jennings-911_WTC7_Full_Uncut_Interview-1of2.mpg
104060928 Sep 17 23:57 Barry_Jennings-911_WTC7_Full_Uncut_Interview-2of2.mpg
  4864000 Sep 18 06:23 barryjennings-menu-final.mpg
 26118144 Sep 18 00:48 Giuliani_Caught_In_Bizarre_Building_7_Lie.mpg
 
PAL DVD
Category: Video > Television
Language: English  
Total Size: 824.50 MB 
http://tracker.conspiracycentral.net/torrents-details.php?id=1887

In memory of a great hero who delivered 33 years of excellent service,

Best regards,

Robert M. Stockmann
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

One can download the flash videos of Barry Jennings (*.flv) below as a zipfile flv.zip. The individual .flv and .mpg files are also on the PAL DVD which can be downloaded from conspiracycentral.

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:41:18 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann" 
To: lennybloom@gmail.com, stewwebb@sierranv.net, 
     stefangrossmann@t-online.de, too@slingshot.co.nz, 
     timrifat@rvscience.com, wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, 
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     eric@iamthewitness.com, captainmay@prodigy.net, 
     tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net, webmaster@rense.com, 
     articles@davidicke.com, chamish@netvision.net.il, 
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 lennybloom@gmail.com wrote:

> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:10:18 +0200
> From: lennybloom@gmail.com
> To: stock@stokkie.net
> Subject: BUSH ATTEMPT TO SUSPEND CONSTITUTION WITH ECONOMIC CRISIS FOILED
> 
> Hello 
> 
> BUSH FAILS TO EXTEND PRESIDENCY WITH FINANCIAL SHOCK & AWE
> BUSH'S ATTEMPT TO SUSPEND U.S. CONSTITUTION FOILED.
> BUSH CRIME CARTEL FOOLS WORLDS LEGISLATORS AND BANKERS
> THE FEDERAL RESERVE ARTIFICIALLY CREATED CRISIS ON SEPT. 11/2008!!!
> HELLO! WAKEY WAKEY!   ARE YOU IN THERE?????
> ATTACK ON WALL STREET ORCHESTRATED BY THE SAME CRIMINAL GANG
> WHO ORCHESTRATED THE 9/11 ATTACKS.
> 
> THERE IS NO FINANCIAL PROBLEM MERELY A FINANCIAL CRISIS!
> READ STEFAN GROSSMANN'S ARTICLE "WALL STREET TERRORIST."

When your local power plant can't pay the oil/coal/gas bill, the lights
goes out my friend.... Here in Holland they even tried to introduce
a trading business in electricity feeds onto the grid. Luckily
it never gained massive foothold. Getting "shorted" would
have gained a whole new meaning.

> 
> YOURS
> LENNY BLOOM
> WWW.CLOAKANDDAGGER.CA
> WWW.CLOAKANDDAGGER.DE
> 
> SEPTEMBER 22, 2008

You might wanna listen to this really nuclear explosive "Deadline Live"
radio show of SEPTEMBER 18, 2008, featuring Richard Andrew Grove from 
www.8thestate.com (in the 2nd hour) who had some really interesting 
background news to add on AIG and Maurice "Hank" Greenberg :

"Deadline Live - Jack Blood - 080918"
"http://crashrecovery.org/911/Jack Blood - Deadline Live - 080918.mp3"

Prequel :

   Richard Andrew Grove got saved by a traffic jam on 911 as he got a 
   call to showup at the 98th floor of the WTC on the morning of 911. 
   Sounds familiar to me now. Just ask Barry Jennings, Michael D. Hess 
   or John P. O'Neill.

Cheers,

Robert
-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net



total 179192
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-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant      184300 Jan 21  2007 87_20TH.PDF
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant     2108720 Aug 26  2007 bollyn-domain.pdf
-rw-r--r--    2 crashrec klant     1591171 Jan 10  2008 Chambers_010908-RonPaul-Campaign-is-a-fraud.mp3
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant     6163872 Jan 29  2008 DarylBradfordSmith-Bollyn-16Nov2006.mp3
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant     6900119 May 19  2006 DarylBradfordSmith-Bollyn-Zionism-11May2006.mp3
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant     2859553 Mar  8  2008 ESubverting_America_one_part.pdf
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant      278205 Aug 20  2006 fax-eo-NORAD-tapes-20060819.pdf
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant       78251 May 20  2006 Five-Israelis.pdf
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant    40260289 Oct 22 21:15 flv.zip
-rw-rw-r--    1 crashrec klant    14608003 Nov 24  2005 Fox News_Part 1_13 MB.mov
-rw-rw-r--    1 crashrec klant    16171768 Nov 24  2005 Fox News_Part 2_15 MB.mov
-rw-rw-r--    1 crashrec klant    11946045 Nov 24  2005 Fox News_Part 3_11 MB.mov
-rw-rw-r--    1 crashrec klant    12280109 Nov 24  2005 Fox News_Part 4_11 MB.mov
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant    19233824 Sep 24 02:18 Jack Blood - Deadline Live - 080918.mp3
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant        1264 Dec 15 22:02 MD5SUM
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant    14155205 Dec  1  2007 Piper_061207_200000.MP3
-rw-r--r--    1 crashrec klant     1747137 May 19  2008 Saturday-Night-September-1989.pdf
-rw-rw-r--    1 crashrec klant     4469636 Feb  9  2006 Smith7Feb2006.mp3

First published on Mon, 22 May 2006

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Dear Nigel,

Be warned that when the going gets tough, strange things
are bound to happen. Good Luck with the elections.

Yours Sincerely,

Robert Stockmann
--
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     TomFlocco@cs.com, too@slingshot.co.nz, timrifat@rvscience.com,
     pseudoskylax@gmail.com, shanktalk@yahoo.com, one_ibl@yahoo.com,
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     tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net,
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Subject: The EU elections


Hi,

The much hailed Democratic society is something which many if not all
cherish, desire and long to. But one must be very aware of phony
democratic societies. To identity problems one should very closely
investigate matters and details of organised democratic elections.
There are several possibilities and outcomes pictured. The one which is
best, if possible, is one where all peoples are allowed to vote. Noted
and proven complications arise, and have arisen in the past, when the
Jewish and Zionist lobby take foothold and grab control in the House of
Representatives and the Senate. Representatives elect are to obey their
never openly disclosed rules , regulations and guidelines, or else your
campaign funding for re-election will be terminated. It does not take
much imagination that such lobby groups demand that people who do not
approve of their policies, even when not being aware of it themselves,
will never make it on the ballot. One observes this by placing men and
women of renown at unelectable positions. This seems to happen with all
political parties across the board, from left to right, conservative to
liberal. A few exceptions seem to exist, but such parties will never be
granted acceptance in the media and TV. Ron Paul is a good example.
In the Netherlands of most recent it has been the party of Geert
Wilders, the PVV, The Party for Freedom, which has been ostracized,
ridiculized and criminalized in the most evil fashion. This all after
Wilders had criticized the faith of Islam, foremost when actions are
taken to the detriment of women and christians. Such behavior does not
fit inside a Western culture and society.
Another never directly observed policy, like who can make it on the
ballot, is determining who will be eligible to vote or register to
vote, which is likewise obscured. Who will be allowed to vote ? Jews,
Gentiles, Slaves?  In recent times all who are in the possession of a
valid passport or drivers license are eligible to vote. Thats pretty
democratic for the uninformed layman and observer. And it is. What
occurs however is that through other means people are removed from the
possibility to vote, before the event, and these days also observed,
after the election event. In the case of the PVV of Geert Wilders it
turns out that not a single Jew or Zionist would ever vote for him,
because his policies are in direct confrontation with the World Zionist
Agenda of allowing ethnic groups from regions of domestic warfare and
economic trouble to immigrate into Western Europe and Northern America.
As it turns out that all peoples who vote for such political party's,
which of recent have also become EU- and Euro-skeptic as well, are the
Gentiles, the hidden Jewish controllers of congress will never have any
problems with ordering selected delegates to insert casted ballots
together with registered voting cards for the PVV into the
paper-shredder. Recruiting selected delegates for such a task, is not
likely to be a problem, when the main stream media and press turn out
to have become involved in a almost demonic campaign to ridicule,
marginalize and demonize the involved party - PVV - to absurd levels.
I fear that is exactly what has happened last Thursday May 22, 2014,
when the PVV only ended in third place, because, apparently, the voter
turnout was at a dramatic low.

Best Regards,

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net



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Dear Nigel,

Be warned that when the going gets tough, strange things
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Yours Sincerely,

Robert Stockmann
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 21:38:31 +0200 (CEST)
From: Robert M. Stockmann <stock@stokkie.net>
To: stewwebb@stewwebb.com, skolnick@ameritech.net, tom2@tomflocco.com,
     TomFlocco@cs.com, too@slingshot.co.nz, timrifat@rvscience.com,
     pseudoskylax@gmail.com, shanktalk@yahoo.com, one_ibl@yahoo.com,
     stefangrossmann@t-online.de, palast@gregpalast.com, henry@savethemales=
.ca,
     leurenmoret@yahoo.com, rick458@cox.net, stangfeedback@gmail.com,
     smith@iamthewitness.com, salbuchi@fibertel.com.ar, eric@iamthewitness.=
com,
     ognir2@gmail.com, prothink@yahoo.com, captainmay@prodigy.net,
     tarpley@tarpley.net, takingaim@pacbell.net,
     Max Keiser <keiserreport@rttv.ru>, OnTheEdge@presstv.com,
     eirns@larouchepub.com, info@larouchepac.com, freeworldalliance@yahoo.c=
om,
     articles@davidicke.com, springmeiermessages@hotmail.com,
     chamish@netvision.net.il, michaelcollinspiper1960@yahoo.com,
     crescentandcross@gmail.com, tillawi@currentissues.tv, tips@infowars.co=
m,
     wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com, cloak.dagger@gmail.com,
     Lenny Bloom <lennybloom@gmail.com>, eric@vaticanassassins.org,
     email@spirituallysmart.com, deadlinelive@yahoo.com,
     vyzygothraw@hotmail.com, alanwattcuttingthrough@yahoo.com,
     cartalucci@gmail.com, curtcrosby@gmail.com, Micha Kat <drsmkat@yahoo.c=
om>,
     Micha Kat <michaombudsman@gmail.com>, info@frontierworld.nl,
     jdtvproducties@gmail.com, Anton Teuben <antonteuben@outlook.com>,
     sdn@planet.nl, ekc.avanrooij@gmail.com, mr.drs.bou@planet.nl,
     rudy.hannah@planet.nl, freespirit01@planet.nl, andrevergeer@ziggo.nl,
     HansMauritz@Home.nl, j.g.reuchlin@t-online.de, dank@xs4all.nl,
     info@wearechangerotterdam.tv, talkradiomyra@gmail.com,
     volksnieuwsuitamsterdamnoir@gmail.com, deferwerdatjes@hetnet.nl,
     martinvrijland@gmail.com
Subject: The EU elections


Hi,

The much hailed Democratic society is something which many if not all
cherish, desire and long to. But one must be very aware of phony
democratic societies. To identity problems one should very closely
investigate matters and details of organised democratic elections.
There are several possibilities and outcomes pictured. The one which is
best, if possible, is one where all peoples are allowed to vote. Noted
and proven complications arise, and have arisen in the past, when the
Jewish and Zionist lobby take foothold and grab control in the House of
Representatives and the Senate. Representatives elect are to obey their
never openly disclosed rules , regulations and guidelines, or else your
campaign funding for re-election will be terminated. It does not take
much imagination that such lobby groups demand that people who do not
approve of their policies, even when not being aware of it themselves,
will never make it on the ballot. One observes this by placing men and
women of renown at unelectable positions. This seems to happen with all
political parties across the board, from left to right, conservative to
liberal. A few exceptions seem to exist, but such parties will never be
granted acceptance in the media and TV. Ron Paul is a good example.
In the Netherlands of most recent it has been the party of Geert
Wilders, the PVV, The Party for Freedom, which has been ostracized,
ridiculized and criminalized in the most evil fashion. This all after
Wilders had criticized the faith of Islam, foremost when actions are
taken to the detriment of women and christians. Such behavior does not
fit inside a Western culture and society.
Another never directly observed policy, like who can make it on the
ballot, is determining who will be eligible to vote or register to
vote, which is likewise obscured. Who will be allowed to vote ? Jews,
Gentiles, Slaves?  In recent times all who are in the possession of a
valid passport or drivers license are eligible to vote. Thats pretty
democratic for the uninformed layman and observer. And it is. What
occurs however is that through other means people are removed from the
possibility to vote, before the event, and these days also observed,
after the election event. In the case of the PVV of Geert Wilders it
turns out that not a single Jew or Zionist would ever vote for him,
because his policies are in direct confrontation with the World Zionist
Agenda of allowing ethnic groups from regions of domestic warfare and
economic trouble to immigrate into Western Europe and Northern America.
As it turns out that all peoples who vote for such political party's,
which of recent have also become EU- and Euro-skeptic as well, are the
Gentiles, the hidden Jewish controllers of congress will never have any
problems with ordering selected delegates to insert casted ballots
together with registered voting cards for the PVV into the
paper-shredder. Recruiting selected delegates for such a task, is not
likely to be a problem, when the main stream media and press turn out
to have become involved in a almost demonic campaign to ridicule,
marginalize and demonize the involved party - PVV - to absurd levels.
I fear that is exactly what has happened last Thursday May 22, 2014,
when the PVV only ended in third place, because, apparently, the voter
turnout was at a dramatic low.

Best Regards,

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net


THE MONEY MASTERS Last edited on Tue, Jul 15, 2014 20:55:53 CEST

Contents :
"THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY"
Re: America is a British Plantation State occupied by Tax Debt Slaves
The Confederacy and the Federal Union
Abraham Lincoln's "Bank War"
The Great Red Dragon : facsimile pdf of first print
Gold Warriors
More troops in Iraq?
The state of our union
Eminent Domain
The Empire's Echelon
The ABN Amro takeover
THE GROSSMANN AFFIDAVIT ON AIG
"THE MADOFF CHRONICLES" ©2008 BLOOMBERG.COM
China's Dollar Trap
Re: S.Korea wins $40bn UAE Nuclear contract
Don't Invest in Money Standards
"MEET THE WORLD MONEY POWER"
Re: The Emperor has NO Clothes
PROTOCOL No. 20, Financial Programme
OHIO CONGRESSMAN TRAFICANT'S 1993 BANKRUPTCY SPEECH
Bankrupt on Credit
Dexia Investment [Belgian-French] Bank goes Anorexial
Downloads
the money masters documentary from 1996 is a classic. Its a stunning expose of history and governmental conduct explained in a straightforward manner with money and power as sole motive, bypassing conflicts of religion, race and other cooked up charges. The best circumstantial supporting evidence for this is maybe the banning of The Money Masters dvd on amazon.com and sort alike retail shops, and of course on google and youtube video.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 244629 Jul 15 20:55 moneymasters/index.html
fd884c2389178ad2f918e9ce1544c968 moneymasters/index.html

"Testimonials of Illuminati and Zionist influence in Present Day America" Last edited on Fri, Jun 13, 2014 15:22:15 CEST

Norman Dodd, Paul Findley and Alan Hart present their findings of facts which have directed America towards a highly controversial direction, where as the late Norman Dodd stated : "Since World War one, the men who lead this country, have institutionalized conflicting interests to such an extend that they can never be resolved. The Tax-Exempt foundations like the Cargenie Endowment, The Ford and Rockerfeller foundation have been instrumental in this"
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 11498 Jun 13 15:22 testimonials/index.html
615bfd6d028804ad76f107b4340cd22c testimonials/index.html

"911 was a Mossad Operation" Last edited on Fri, May 30, 2014 14:30:14 CEST

Contents :
911 was a Mossad Operation
Barbara Olson was on Flight 77, BBC reports!
Rafi Eitan: Ready shelters for Iran attack
FOX News : Israelis Spying in and on the US
Zionist Circles Benefit From WTC Collapse
The 'Bollyn' Website
The bollyn.com domainname scam
THE RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY
The Bijlmer disaster
Was the Mossad involved in the JFK Assassination 1963 ?
The New Hampshire Vote Fraud
The USS Liberty attack : OPERATION CYANIDE
WTC 270 ton beam flew over highway
9-11 WTC: CONFUSION AROUND 270 TON FLYING DETAIL
REBUTTAL ARGUMENT: YES, 270 TONS AND MORE DID FLY SIDEWAYS
Barry Jennings interviewed at MIKE'S PAPAYA
Downloads
Evidence is presented which show Mossad involvement in the 911 Attacks on the World Trade Center.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 185509 May 30 14:30 911/index.html
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"The Infowar Techniques of the Rendon Group: a possible theory " Last edited on Sun, May 25, 2014 17:31:35 CEST

Contents :
The Infowar Techniques of the Rendon Group: a possible theory
The electricity scam
The Trial of 'Scooter' Libby
CIA Whites Out National Intelligence Estimate
Whats up with Condoleeza's eyes?
Irving Lewis Leibowitz
Ray McGovern's open letter
Ambassador Richard W. Carlson
Downloads
As all the info coming to us is mostly in online articles and videos, The White House outsourced propaganda to company's like The Rendon Group. As no-one is able to visit the place of terrorist attacks to make a independent report, faking news is a easy task. If a fascist group propagates false propaganda using forged documents like the yellow cake ones, the emerging picture becomes a evil nightmare. James Bamford wrote a couple of articles about the Rendon Group. John Rendon and the U.S. propoganda . I think this goes even further, like the ultimate "1984" scenario, The Infowar Techniques of the Rendon Group: a possible theory. Recently the Trial of Scooter Libby was brought for the Grand Jury for a final verdict. A overview is given on how Valerie Plame's Non Official Cover (NOC) for the CIA was leaked to the press.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 92993 May 25 17:31 rendon/index.html
cd1656b50c4dee71b18ebcbefa7f9ec2 rendon/index.html

"HAMDAN v. RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, ET AL." Last edited on Wed, May 21, 2014 04:09:35 CEST

Contents :
Rahm Emanual, Obama and H.R.3604
Obama makes Census a White House project
Obama's amnesty-by-fiat: Naked lawlessness
HAMDAN v. RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, ET AL.
Capt. Eric H. May : Geneva Conventions now, Nuremberg Principles later
David Ray Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007
Downloads
An analysis which shows how the Bush administration reflected to this law case.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 89557 May 21 04:09 hamdan/index.html
f3ad92eb0b3e2a277acb185250e4ebd9 hamdan/index.html

The Curse of Canaan, A Demonology of History Last edited on Tue, May 20, 2014 17:52:04 CEST

Contents :
The Curse of Canaan, A Demonology of History
Ezra Pound, the ultimate researcher of the unknown and hidden
The Curse inside Dictionaries
Khazarian Smokescreen in the Caucasus
Commentaries on the Curse
Downloads
Eustace Mullins, a protege of the late poet and novelist Ezra Pound, who wrote the book "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve", presents history from beginning of time to present day with "The Curse of Canaan", as laid out inside the Holy Bible, as guideline. His findings of fact are most worrying with regards to the survival of mankind and humanity as we have known it.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 61273 May 20 17:52 canaan/index.html
c23bbed8e0e3df7c17d84aa2247a6d12 canaan/index.html

"Satanic Voices, Ancient & Modern" Last edited on Fri, Dec 06, 2013 19:02:44 CET

Contents :
"Satanic Voices, Ancient & Modern"
"The Islam needs a French Revolution"
Chirac's apprentice
Barry Chamish on Gaza
Downloads
David Musa Pidcock, a leading figure from the Islamic Party of Britain, found himself seriously offended with many other people with Islamic believes, when in 1988 Salman Rushdie published his book "Satanic Verses". The media hype on tv was almost ludricous with how Satanic Verses was promoted into highest circles of the 'Literature establishment'. Pidcock however lowered his blood pressure and wrote a respons titled "Satanic Voices, Ancient & Modern", which indeed, as he describes, is a game set and match expose on the subject.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 61533 Dec 6 2013 pidcock/index.html
b9af836edf5b78c254f0692d9f995c61 pidcock/index.html

The National Security Agency (NSA) Last edited on Tue, Oct 15, 2013 20:58:55 CEST

Contents :
Public Safety Canada March 23, 2008
James Forrestal, the 1st US Secretary of Defense
Majesty 12 (MJ-12)
NORDEX, NSA proprietary in Vienna, Austria
Downloads
The NSA has always been taken for granted by the Grand Public, despite that its existance was never officially published. It was only leaked to the public, through books and research articles. There never was really a need to be worried, as the NSA was taking care of America's security, and since all was fine, noone was really interested to do their own research. Then 911 happened, where the role of the NSA became somehow ... different.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 73356 Oct 15 2013 forrestal/index.html
df0b8e628f44618f2a4e41df2efc0cc0 forrestal/index.html

"A pre Jesuit history" Last edited on Fri, Jun 07, 2013 15:05:07 CEST

Contents :
A pre Jesuit history
The 1605 Gun Powder Plot debunked
Interview with Leo Zagami
The Coup inside the Vatican
Opus Dei Massacre and The Davinci Code
Kissinger to Serve As Papal Adviser?
Former 'Jesuit' Fr. Malachi Martin
A Jew as Catholic Cardinal
The Treaty of Rome, Mar 25, 1957
Catholic Church is "the one true Church of Christ"
THE BLACK POPE Hoax
The 'Black Pope' steps back
Chinks hunting down last remaining loot
The beatification of Pope Pius XII
The Jesuit takeover of the Vatican
Downloads
A lot of controversy exists around the role of the Jesuit order in obtaining a new world order. To fully understand this role, a history overview is presented.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 183080 Jun 7 2013 jesuit/index.html
e6ebeb89c9d7fdc51f591a68e11dc6c6 jesuit/index.html

MOSSAD's control over the Internet Last edited on Sun, Aug 05, 2012 01:52:01 CEST

Contents :
The Mossad takeover of popular Webmail
MOSSAD takes over MOSNEWS.COM
Re: MOSSAD takes over MOSNEWS.COM
High Alert, good websites get taken down
Cloak and Dagger under blackbox routing attack
Compromised DNS backbone providers
Re: [IANA #91363] Compromised DNS backbone providers
Keyboard JitterBug eavesdropping
The Anti Spam Controversy
Facebook Snubs Your E-mail
Downloads
The Mossad and affiliated organizations nowadays try to control or even takeover popular websites and email services.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 97901 Aug 5 2012 internet/index.html
d916624380b5c009f483574e4bfa5115 internet/index.html

EU Software Patent Directive Last edited on Wed, Apr 18, 2012 15:02:48 CEST

Contents :
Transcript of the EU Council on the Software Patent Directive
Queen abdicates her constitutional responsibility
"Total Controlled Demolition" Copyright
The Fall of Poland
Downloads
On Mar 7, 2005 the EU Commission tried to pass the controversial EU Software Patent Directive, neglecting Democratic rule inside EU Parliament. On Feb 27, 2006 former Soviet Dissident Vladimir Bukovksy warns for EU Dictatorship. On Dec 12, 2007 The EU Commission and Council denied the referendum as part of the Democratic process to create the European Constitution. It just seems that PART THREE of the book "Waters flowing Eastward, The War against the Kingship of Christ" by L.Fry titled "THE SOVIETIZATION OF GREAT BRITAIN AND THE UNITED STATES" is indeed in full progress.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 38115 Apr 18 2012 council-transcript/index.html
83332b950ae2054d8ac6d495edf00c7d council-transcript/index.html

"Russian Israeli duel for power, oil and dirty cash" Last edited on Wed, Apr 18, 2012 01:29:19 CEST

Contents :
The real Master(s) in control
Alexander Litvinenko
Chief of Russian Gas Company Shot Dead
Russian MP Crashes His Million Dollar Ferrari in France
Boris Berezovsky
Vreeland's notes and the Oligarch Connection
Michael Chertoff and the Russian Mafiya
"A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties"
The Dutch Real Estate business
Bobby Fischer, America's intellectual hero
Putin's role
The Takeover Of America according Brig. General Ben Partin
So who's panicking? BIG OIL
The Chinatown Gang from Russia
Downloads
A report about Yukos OIL and the assassinations recently observed. This battle is part of a world coup as we will find out. 911 is just the beginning.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 167074 Apr 18 2012 fischer/index.html
9d26b59452da558526246011cc726c96 fischer/index.html

"Benjamin Freedman warns America" Last edited on Fri, Apr 13, 2012 22:20:12 CEST

Contents :
Benjamin Freedman warns America
Zionism Exposed
The Cause of Our Conflict
Revelation exposes the Rev. Hagee movement
Vindication
Fired from Oxford : Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
The secret history of the 2nd Amendment
A note on Eric Hufschmid
Endpoint Software, Goleta CA
Eric Phelps on Zionism
The GCN v. RBN battle
Peter Schaenk's falling out with RBN and VOR
The Deguello Report Hoax
Downloads
In the 1960's a former insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations inside America stepped forward and warned the public what most probable was going to happen. Almost all he predicted to happen has in fact become a reality today.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 167764 Apr 13 2012 freedman/index.html
5d0f8c8811a027a3fdbf74aafcf1b698 freedman/index.html

"The History of Mind Control" Last edited on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 02:16:03 CET

Contents :
The History of Mind Control
Jewry, the biggest identity theft in the history of mankind
Mysterious Monuments and Buildings
Hidden Wars
Downloads
A hands-on down to earth summary about mind control is given, and next the history of Mind Control inside the USA is presented.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 34246 Feb 24 2012 mindcontrol/index.html
de226a3cbabc2fb421ed3d356622a698 mindcontrol/index.html

"Judaism Discovered (Entdecktes Judenthum)" Last edited on Thu, Feb 23, 2012 04:52:11 CET

Contents :
Israeli Talmudic Internet Domain Sales
Mossad an Evil Secret Service?
Re: New Old Jewish Lady
Michael Hoffman II aka Johann Andreas Eisenmenger III
Talmudic spitting on Holy Crosses
Re: Michael Hoffman II aka Johann Andreas Eisenmenger III
Johannes Andrea Eisenmenger
Re: Bishop Williamson's dismissal as Seminary Rector
Downloads
(a discussion of why i came to purchase this book).
Michael Hoffman II from revisionisthistory.org is an astounding researcher into areas of long forgotten history, which today can be recognized as missions into un-embarked territory with severe dangers for ones health and survival. His recent monumental work, Judaism Discovered, will become the most important book in its field for all future times to come.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 47355 Feb 23 2012 hoffman/index.html
359cd4768c38574e3e1084ebb5fe0376 hoffman/index.html

"The protocols are for real" Last edited on Thu, Apr 07, 2011 22:08:32 CEST

Contents :
"The protocols are for real"
Re: Who killed Yitzhak Rabin?
Downloads
Barry Chamish, a political writer from Israel has connected some dots regarding "the protocols of the learned elders of Zion" which seem not to be the playbook of the Jewish people, but turn out to be a masterplan designed by the Illuminati to take over the world. A masterplan which denounces all wellbeing and prospering of normal people.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 40072 Apr 7 2011 chamish/index.html
c2d3d55cd32182b60efd79e0b79bd1b0 chamish/index.html

"Susan Lindauer -- Reporter Held Political Prisoner" Last edited on Sun, Jan 16, 2011 05:34:21 CET

In March 2001 Susan Lindauer carried a message from the Iraqi government to her cousin, the White House Chief of Staff, requesting the return of weapons inspectors. But Bush nevertheless attacked and invaded Iraq using WMD as a pretext, murdered as many as 500,000 people, and spread radioactive poison over the entire country, which will murder millions more. Susan Lindauer was for over period of almost a year in prison on false claims of insanity, sentenced on Feb 15, 2006 by then U.S. District Judge Michael Mukasey. On Sept. 8, 2006 the forced mental hospitalization was however dropped by Mukasey, and she was subsequently released. A most weird case as the hearings carousel is continuing to this very day.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 16424 Jan 16 2011 lindauer/index.html
d0a70db8516ff629caea6e40f5bb451a lindauer/index.html

"Report from IRON MOUNTAIN" Last edited on Sun, Dec 12, 2010 18:54:42 CET

Contents :
REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN : On the Possibility and Desirability of Peace
Google's Ice Earth Hoax Day
L'histoire, se répčte : Organic Fuel
Report from IRON MOUNTAIN : Microwaved!
Seperation of the world into 10 DVD region codes
Codex Alimentarius and the "Nutricide" Gig
The Dutch Milk Mafia
"Conspiracy of Cells: One Woman's Immortal Legacy - and the Medical Scandal It Caused"
Esophageal Cancer
Silent Tsunami
"Report from IRON MOUNTAIN" is a secret study by 15 researchers ordered by JFK in 1961. JFK got killed, Lyndon Johnsen received the report in 1966, and kept it silent as bottom drawer material. In 1967 one of the researchers who called himself "John Doe" published it, and the media denounced it as a Hoax.... BUT...Never before has a Hoax, "REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN ON THE POSSIBILITY AND DESIRABILITY OF PEACE", developed into a accurate description of the factual plans which are layed out before us, day by day.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 104070 Dec 12 2010 ironmountain/index.html
05c0de9efa7cd50ec01629d77ce3801a ironmountain/index.html

"Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine" Last edited on Thu, Nov 04, 2010 18:26:43 CET

Contents :
"Dark Matter, a result of the heliocentric doctrine"
Art Bell - The Philidelphia Experiment - Al Bielek
The Temple of Man
Stellar Death Shrouds : The all-seeing evil eye?
Downloads
"The Earth is not moving" is a astounding scholarly work debunking the BIGGEST DECEPTION laid upon the grand public by the Science Establishment ever. What Deception? The Heliocentric system turns out to be a fabricated model of our planetary system, written up in Latin, which started around the year 1600, whilest the King James Bible was getting translated into English. Marshall Hall starts of by mentioning that all NASA calculations which should deliver the highest accuracy are based on a non-moving earth.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 51186 Nov 4 2010 fixedearth/index.html
e6c8eb4c12fa5ee0befc0edee1c5d9e9 fixedearth/index.html

"The NWO : a Tarnung by Teutonic Knights?" Last edited on Tue, Sep 07, 2010 02:58:17 CEST

The Vatican Church has supported the Nazi's in the 1930's 40's and 50's. This connection turns out to be a very old one, as middle eave Popes were emanating the agenda and mindset for the crusades. This Nazi connection actually turns out to be a Teutonic connection.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 13203 Sep 7 2010 teutonic/index.html
21002ad5aeaed61d3882d432fbab6e3e teutonic/index.html

"The Illuminati and the Counsel on Foreign Relations Conspiracy" Last edited on Thu, Jul 30, 2009 09:55:18 CEST

Contents :
The Illuminati and the Counsel on Foreign Relations
Anthony J. Hilder about 'Red Ronny'
Harry Hopkins
Silent Book/DVD Censorship in the free western world
Hitler didn't invade Poland, only the Polish corridor
Re: The 'Ugly Secret' Of World War Two
Barack Zeke Midas Obama
Downloads
Myron C. Fagan, a Hollywood Writer Director, was given access in 1945 to evidence from "Illuminati" circles comprising a set of micro-films and recordings of the SECRET meetings at Yalta attended only by Franklin Roosevelt, Alger Hiss, Harry Hopkins, Stalin, Molotov, and Vishinsky when they hatched the plot to deliver the Balkans, Eastern Europe and Berlin to Stalin. A month after the Six-Day war and the attack on the USS Liberty, Fagan stepped forward in July 1967 and presented his knowledge in a audio recording, today available in mp3 format.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 98724 Jul 30 2009 fagan/index.html
74180a0c4c5305b19bdce2735c9870e2 fagan/index.html

"HITLER was a BRITISH AGENT" Last edited on Tue, Apr 21, 2009 06:19:23 CEST

Contents :
"HITLER was a BRITISH AGENT"
Jewish v. Gentile Mafia
Top Kiwis Smeared
House of Stuart, Sinclair and Wettin
The Trojan Prime Ministers
Downloads
Greg Hallett, a researcher and writer from the intelligence community wrote a book titled "Hitler was a BRITISH AGENT". a interesting and intriguing book which presents a theory which fits like a glove inside the official stories and official biographies published since the 1970's on the subject. Normally a person never would even think of this possibility, but Greg Hallett's contacts from the community have issued numerous hints and warnings. The disturbing trends in global geo-politics we all have seen happening since 2001, left Hallett not much room as to publish this book.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 85807 Apr 21 2009 hallett/index.html
b1d5eb491df52e433c24ff6226beccae hallett/index.html

"To Eliminate the Opiate" Last edited on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 20:15:27 CET

Contents :
To Eliminate The Opiate, Vol.1 Vol.2
The Hebrew Bible : from Aleppo Codex to "Rothschild Mahzor"
Post WWII Bibles seriously flawed
Downloads
Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman wrote a two volume book which presents a overwhelming amount of evidence, names, dates and events throughout the last century's which describe the abolishment of Religion, in particular the Jewish, in order to spiritually dumb down the grand public, in effect eliminating The Opiate of the people, their religion as stated inside the Illuminati masterplan.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 52675 Mar 4 2009 antelman/index.html
101cb332d6266f05954dab804947baef antelman/index.html

The secret Downing Street memo Last edited on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 08:52:12 CET

Contents :
Kelly had 'no right' to anonymity
The secret Downing Street memo
Memo: Bush manipulated Iraq intel
Bush asked to explain UK war memo
Indignation Grows in U.S. Over British Prewar Documents
Downloads
David Kelly was a renowned Weapons Inspector for the U.N. and U.K. Military. A 2002 dossier titled "IRAQ'S WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" triggered Kelly for a renewed WMD inspection inside Iraq and became convinced that the only purpose of the IRAQ WMD dossier had been to get a war going in Iraq. After testifying before the UK Congress, Kelly went missing and was found dead on July 18, 2003. The Lord Hutton inquiry concluded that Kelly had committed 'suicide'. Then on May 1, 2005 a verbatim copy of a secret "Downing Street memo" from July 23, 2002 was published stating that "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" to get a war going in Iraq. The authenticity of this document, to this very day, has not been disputed.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 42271 Feb 25 2009 kelly/index.html
06fba9d412b7d49741099e950d3930b5 kelly/index.html

"Fr. Leonard Feeney M.I.C.M." Last edited on Fri, Dec 26, 2008 18:53:42 CET

A catholic Jesuit priest published a number of articles in the 1950s illustrating numerous efforts by governmental sponsored groups to systematic abolish the Catholic Religion and religious faith in general.
-rw-rw-r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 5654 Dec 26 2008 fatherfeeney/index.html
a92383f048c341092665c33dfa9829ad fatherfeeney/index.html

Louis Madelin, "La Revolution" Last edited on Fri, Dec 26, 2008 18:53:40 CET

a analysis about the French Revolution, still to be completed and translated.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 28310 Dec 26 2008 madelin/index.html
af9c7b7c8044e11488657a27e46a6d4f madelin/index.html

"U.S. Patent No. 4,686,605 : H.A.A.R.P." Last edited on Fri, Dec 26, 2008 18:53:39 CET

A illustration of how H.A.A.R.P works in practice, based on a U.S. Patent document.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 15527 Dec 26 2008 haarp/index.html
ea47220b98929df89cd92c8539cd9ab3 haarp/index.html

King James Reference Bible Last edited on Thu, Mar 08, 2007 19:42:23 CET

A lot of content concerning the NWO is somehow related to the Bible. As a convenience i present a restaurated copy of http://www.htmlbible.com/ which recently somehow disappeared from the internet.
-rw-r--r-- 2 crashrecovery klant 348 Mar 8 2007 htbible/index.html
36050cb040cc8bb8212411aefe640e11 htbible/index.html

To verify the md5sum checksum and file size of list.html

make an ftp connection to crashrecovery.org i.e. ftp://crashrecovery.org/pub/nwo . Download list.html to check its contents and size and download MD5SUM to verify the md5sum of list.html .

To verify the md5sum checksum and file sizes, load the same url, with https.

So when you have http://crashrecovery.org/moneymasters/ inside your browser, reload the same url with https://crashrecovery.org/moneymasters/ in a new window or tab and save the new loaded page as a file, i.e. internet.html. The md5 checksum and file size of internet.html should be the same as internet/index.html as listed above.

Note that the "Save Page As..." option in many modern browserslike e.g. Mozilla Firefox produces bad md5 checksums. Somehow some extra garbage html is added. In such cases one should use wget and md5sum.

For the Microsoft Windows platform see wget and md5sums. Wget version 1.10 on Windows is currently a mess when using https, so get version 1.9.1. I recommend to download ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/projects/wget/windows/wget-1.9.1b.zip , ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/projects/wget/windows/ssllibs097c.zip and http://www.pc-tools.net/files/win32/freeware/md5sums-1.2.zip

Unzip the contents of these three zipfiles into a directory (Folder) and proceed as follows from the windows command shell cmd.exe :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check>dir Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is 04B8-FFFC Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check 04/15/2008 12:33 PM <DIR> . 04/15/2008 12:33 PM <DIR> .. 10/01/2003 10:50 AM 876,544 libeay32.dll 01/31/2005 01:20 AM 28,160 md5sums.exe 01/31/2005 07:51 PM 4,205 md5sums.txt 11/07/2003 03:38 PM 16,121 News 11/14/2003 02:23 PM 375 Readme.txt 11/30/2001 08:32 AM 4,022 sample.wgetrc 10/01/2003 10:50 AM 159,744 ssleay32.dll 11/14/2003 02:19 PM 225,280 wget.exe 11/14/2003 02:19 PM 148,259 wget.hlp 11/14/2003 02:19 PM 186,238 wget.html 10 File(s) 1,648,948 bytes 2 Dir(s) 372,518,912 bytes free C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check> wget https://www1.crashrecovery.org/moneymasters/index.html --12:43:44-- https://www1.crashrecovery.org/moneymasters/index.html => `index.html' Resolving www1.crashrecovery.org... 10.0.18.84 Connecting to www1.crashrecovery.org[10.0.18.84]:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 95,659 [text/html] 100%[====================================>] 95,659 --.--K/s 12:43:44 (1.94 MB/s) - `index.html' saved [95659/95659] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check>md5sums index.html MD5sums 1.2 freeware for Win9x/ME/NT/2000/XP+ Copyright (C) 2001-2005 Jem Berkes - http://www.pc-tools.net/ Type md5sums -h for help [Path] / filename MD5 sum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check\] index.html d6080d29d30085ac82d9c2ed39729294 C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\check>

which corresponds with :

-rw-r--r-- 3 crashrec klant 95659 Apr 15 07:55 moneymasters/index.html
d6080d29d30085ac82d9c2ed39729294 moneymasters/index.html

Robert M. Stockmann
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